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[Cythraul]

Everytime I browse the forum I see an ad for this shit: http://www.daljeets.com/591-s1.html

Who the hell wears stuff like that??!!

 

[Pessimism]

Adblock man

 

[Marina_K]

Some dude I know in a band was telling me about his 'rare shoes from Germany' and they looked like that, but yellow. Ghey. I wear boots from time to time but they're not lolternative they're fashionable.

 

[Eligos]

I'm planning on getting a macbook pro before school starts in the fall.

 

[Onder]

Some dude I know in a band was telling me about his 'rare shoes from Germany' and they looked like that, but yellow. Ghey. I wear boots from time to time but they're not lolternative they're fashionable.

Show us some pictures.

 

[Mort Divine]

I'm planning on wasting my money

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[Jimmy... Dead.]

Don't you think that both of these still imply "use" though? If people want something, it's useful for them.

Absolutely, but my argument is value.

 

[Einherjar86]

Right, but everything we've been saying is predicated on "use" being a kind of value.

 

[Cronopio]

Value schmalue.

 

[Eligos]

some generality about money

I actually wouldn't have considered the apple switch had I not been working with their products for the last few months in tech support and they are phenomenally easier to troubleshoot and use. I have to get a computer anyway and think it'll be an excellent opportunity to try something new and expand my expertise.

 

[Zephyrus]

Value schmalue.

I have not once seen you post anything meaningful the entire time you've been here. And even the meaningless stuff you post is subpar.

 

[Cronopio]

I have not once seen you post anything meaningful the entire time you've been here. And even the meaningless stuff you post is subpar.

Nice to see you've been keeping track of me since 2003. And, for the record, someone needs to fill the "useless" quota. Just sayin'.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

Cronopio's posts only function symbolically within a system of exchange

 

[Jimmy... Dead.]

Right, but everything we've been saying is predicated on "use" being a kind of value.

Things that are not commodities may be “useful in various ways,” but that does not make them use-values. Marx defines ‘usefulness’ pragmatically. I agree nothing is intrinsically useful in itself. The only indication that a thing is “useful” is the fact that it is actually being used by somebody. Usefulness is socially contingent; it’s a matter of ever-shifting human needs and desires. “The discovery of. . . the manifold uses of things is the work of history.” Marx offers no grounds for making a division between those uses that would be productive, natural and proper, and those that would be wasteful, artificial, and perverse.

 

[Astrum]

Cronopio's posts only function symbolically within a system of exchange

 

[Einherjar86]

Cronopio's posts only function symbolically within a system of exchange

Yes, and they possess no intrinsic use-value...

Things that are not commodities may be “useful in various ways,” but that does not make them use-values. Marx defines ‘usefulness’ pragmatically. I agree nothing is intrinsically useful in itself. The only indication that a thing is “useful” is the fact that it is actually being used by somebody. Usefulness is socially contingent; it’s a matter of ever-shifting human needs and desires. “The discovery of. . . the manifold uses of things is the work of history.” Marx offers no grounds for making a division between those uses that would be productive, natural and proper, and those that would be wasteful, artificial, and perverse.

Okay, so you're making the division then? I mean, some might argue that oil is wasteful, artificial and perverse.

 

[Der Morgenstern]

Those people are disgusting hippies with trust funds.

 

[Jimmy... Dead.]

 

[Einherjar86]

So we're making personal judgments on people?

 

[Der Morgenstern]

Maybe I need to put a winking smilie at the end of every fucking post now.