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[razoredge]

We went through the same thing here in the State woodlots, which is reverse bidding if you can follow me. Fly by night Canadian loggers from Quebec were coming down with green cards and with big money buying up woodlots, they destroyed the residual stands. On one lot in particular they outbid me by $75 dollars, they ripped the bark of every remaining tree, which for those of you that dont know, means 20 ft of the butt log of that tree will be rotten and worthless come then next time of harvest, this is the best part of a tree. I was instrumental in getting residual stand damage regulations put in effect because I went down to the DEC office and went entirely off the hook. I asked them in a very rude tone "do you mean to tell me that destroying 50 acres of timber was worth an extra $75 ? " The Canadians were not the only ones, crew from the Adirondacs that worked on International Paper and Finch Pryn company land had done much of the same, because American corporations simply done give a shit. International Paper eventually built mills in South America from the record profits they showed off our mills... but then I have already gone into that... NO ? These crew were eventually weeded out but the damage was catastrophic, thousands of acres or OUR (yes tax payers, that is OUR land) forests had irreversable quality of timber damage. None the less the money was so big, our state government just went to giant clear cuts as a way to appease the remaining "big time" timber harvestors. They also stopped replanting and just threw all the money from timber sales into the states general funds.

But "times have changed" and... hows that go ? "I have the inability to ADAPT"... well let me just say, I am PROUD of the fact that I have not become so complacient.
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BTW, I just started cutting again for one of the local, successful and consciencous hardwood producers, $15 an hour (woo hoo ), want to find out about skills, hard work, endurance and the most awesome working environment on earth ? Come walk a mile

"I'm back...... in the saddle again ! "

 

[rockyracoon]

We went through the same thing here in the State woodlots, which is reverse bidding if you can follow me. Fly by night Canadian loggers from Quebec were coming down with green cards and with big money buying up woodlots, they destroyed the residual stands. On one lot in particular they outbid me by $75 dollars, they ripped the bark of every remaining tree, which for those of you that dont know, means 20 ft of the butt log of that tree will be rotten and worthless come then next time of harvest, this is the best part of a tree. I was instrumental in getting residual stand damage regulations put in effect because I went down to the DEC office and went entirely off the hook. I asked them in a very rude tone "do you mean to tell me that destroying 50 acres of timber was worth an extra $75 ? " The Canadians were not the only ones, crew from the Adirondacs that worked on International Paper and Finch Pryn company land had done much of the same, because American corporations simply done give a shit. International Paper eventually built mills in South America from the record profits they showed off our mills... but then I have already gone into that... NO ? These crew were eventually weeded out but the damage was catastrophic, thousands of acres or OUR (yes tax payers, that is OUR land) forests had irreversable quality of timber damage. None the less the money was so big, our state government just went to giant clear cuts as a way to appease the remaining "big time" timber harvestors. They also stopped replanting and just threw all the money from timber sales into the states general funds.

But "times have changed" and... hows that go ? "I have the inability to ADAPT"... well let me just say, I am PROUD of the fact that I have not become so complacient.]


I'm beginning to think that you're problem is that you seem to have a ridiculously inflated opinion of your own self worth and just how much your so-called hard work means to anyone but yourself. Additionally, your attitudes/views, and subsequently all your opinions on this topic do nothing but solidify more than a handful of very unfortunate stereotypes.


I do, however, find unmeasurable catharsis in knowing that people like you will never represent the majority.

 

[razoredge]

More bullshit, do you actually have anything to say ? anything that you can PROVE ? anything that you know about ? are you a teenager ?

 

[Yngvai X]

Yaz said -
"Bad point. An honest employer would pay an adequate living wage for menial labor. There's a skill level that is involved with being in IT that isn't involved with scrubbing toilets. If you have a degree, employers will consider you overqualified to flip burgers. "

I say -
touche. However, it still stands that if someone feels the employer is dishonestly underpaying, they can find an employer that will pay them an honest, adequate wage for their work done.

rocky said -
"I'm from the aforementioned suburban upbringing and raised by parents who worked their asses to the bone for me. And they always told me, don't be a fool like us and piss your life away working."

I say -
Pardon me, but did they tell you to sit on your ass with a sense of entitlement and expect things to be handed to you like a bum? Because thats the alternative to "pissing your life away working."

razoredge said -
"AND I DONT BELIEVE "LOWS" HAS ANY SHORTAGE OF INCOME TO BURN !"

I say -
First of all, its not your place to decide if Lowes has a surplus of income to spend on building costs. Anyway, like you said, they pretty much got what they paid for. So when the building has structural problems that costs them more in the long term to fix and maintain as a result of skimping on building costs, if they are smart, next time they'll spend a little more to contract out quality work.

ABQ and JDub said -
A lot of shit I agree with.

 

[Jax]

Knock it off, kids..attack the opinion, not the person behind it. Not gonna warn you again.

 

[Meedleyx10]

Count me in on the Matt, Zach, Jdubb, and Mark side of the fence.


In more important news, I can't decide if I want a pizza for dinner or a sandwich. Any thoughts?

 

[noble savage]

Nothing beats a good pizza. Nothing! Although, for me anyway, pizza is either hit or miss. I could never find a place that made it good after I left Pittsburgh!

 

[Meedleyx10]

It's too late, I chose sandwich. Pizza is good though...I usually go frozen nowadays (cheaper....I'm a big fan of Bernatello's pan crust), but I'm fortunate to have 3 REALLY good local, family owned pizza places within a 30 minute walk of my place

 

[J-Dubya 777]

Nothing beats a good pizza. Nothing! Although, for me anyway, pizza is either hit or miss. I could never find a place that made it good after I left Pittsburgh!

Good pizza in Pittsburgh???!!! Is it NYC influenced, or do they do their own thing? I have to admit to being spoiled by being close to Chicago, THE best pizza on the planet, bar none!

Edit: Had a GIANT Portillo's Italian Beef for dinner at work tonight....

 

[Beelzebub]

Don't be stupid...the point is, that was 300+ years ago, and did the Indians try real hard to get a long with the "inavaders"? By your & Canto's views, we started firing soon as we jumped off the boat. Not to mention. You younger folk seem like you want to rewrite history to appease your bleeding little hearts. As Matt mentioned, some of our parents worked REAL hard to get here,came here within the laws of the country, and busted ass to become "Americans". Quit trying to be Ken...

I really don't see how agreeing with someone else on an issue automatically means that I'm trying to emulate them. I might as well tell you to quit trying to be Mark. Please direct me to where I said that your ancestors went around shooting up Injuns once you all got off the boat; that would be great. You also seem to be forgetting the fact that my parents came here in the 1970's, worked their asses off and saved their money for 30 years (while living in a one bedroom apartment for 20) to be able to buy a house and live the American dream. You have no business trying to school me about immigrants who become law-abiding citizens.

if someone feels the employer is dishonestly underpaying, they can find an employer that will pay them an honest, adequate wage for their work done.

Not when everyone is paying the same shitty wage.

 

[J-Dubya 777]

I really don't see how agreeing with someone else on an issue automatically means that I'm trying to emulate them. I might as well tell you to quit trying to be Mark.

I think I can be much worse than Mark to deal with.....

Please direct me to where I said that your ancestors went around shooting up Injuns once you all got off the boat; that would be great.

That segment was directed at CantoX, and his "genociding" and "stealing their money" quip. My fingers were flying faster than my brain at that point...
(I'd like to know what bank the Indians used to manage their money)

You also seem to be forgetting the fact that my parents came here in the 1970's, worked their asses off and saved their money for 30 years (while living in a one bedroom apartment for 20) to be able to buy a house and live the American dream. You have no business trying to school me about immigrants who become law-abiding citizens.

and ya know what Yas, that is absolutely wonderful (I mean that most sincerely), and I wish EVERY person who wanted to better themselves and try to exist here would do the same, and come here LEGALLY (as I'm assuming your folks did). THAT'S what I'm talking about. How you can not be the least bit upset about people coming here, sneaking in one way or another (be they Hispanic, Asian, European, it really doesn't matter) and taking advantage of our country's benefits, and apathy towards the situation? We can talk desert litter, a rise in measels & mumps and TB in schools, overcrowded hospitals, insane healthcare costs, I mean the list of negatives is really endless. And before you say that the illeagal immigrants aren't responsible for all of that, I hope you understand that they DO play a major part in it.

 

[noble savage]

Good pizza in Pittsburgh???!!! Is it NYC influenced, or do they do their own thing? I have to admit to being spoiled by being close to Chicago, THE best pizza on the planet, bar none!

Edit: Had a GIANT Portillo's Italian Beef for dinner at work tonight....

No, it's actually just a thin crust with the perfect amount of sauce that doesn't taste like shit and a lot of cheese. It was basically this one place right up the street from me and every Friday after work I would hoard an entire extra large back into my room and eat until I felt sick.

Honestly, I have had NYC pizza and I still don't think it's as good as some of the places I got it back in Pittsburgh. Maybe it just has to do with where you grow up because my grandma, who grew up in NYC, says the exact opposite.

I have actually considered driving to Chicago just to get pizza! I now live about 1.5 hours away and am probably stupid enough to go get some, just to see what all of the fuss is about over their pizza.

 

[Beelzebub]

I think I can be much worse than Mark to deal with.....



That segment was directed at CantoX, and his "genociding" and "stealing their money" quip. My fingers were flying faster than my brain at that point...
(I'd like to know what bank the Indians used to manage their money)



and ya know what Yas, that is absolutely wonderful (I mean that most sincerely), and I wish EVERY person who wanted to better themselves and try to exist here would do the same, and come here LEGALLY (as I'm assuming your folks did). THAT'S what I'm talking about. How you can not be the least bit upset about people coming here, sneaking in one way or another (be they Hispanic, Asian, European, it really doesn't matter) and taking advantage of our country's benefits, and apathy towards the situation? We can talk desert litter, a rise in measels & mumps and TB in schools, overcrowded hospitals, insane healthcare costs, I mean the list of negatives is really endless. And before you say that the illeagal immigrants aren't responsible for all of that, I hope you understand that they DO play a major part in it.

To be honest my dad came here illegally, but laws were different back then, and having English as a first language combined with a fake name made for easy assimilation. He spent years working in garment district sweatshops, gas stations, Macy's, warehouses, truck driving, the list goes on, before marrying my mom who at the time was a permanent resident and they were granted citizenship shortly after my elder sister was born. To me, the whole shitty conditions of hospitals/health care thing is an issue that's entirely different so I won't even delve into that. Historically, immigrants have come here in packs. We've had waves of Irish, German, Chinese, Italian, Polish, etc. immigrants, all of whom have faced the same discrimination that's going on now, if not, worse. Those immigrants contributed to society by taking shitty jobs and all of those people were resented at one point or another for not assimilating but eventually they did. We are currently undergoing a sharp influx of immigrants from Central/South America and with time, I honestly think that they'll become accepted into society once another ethnic group starts to pour into America.

 

[Beelzebub]

Honestly, I have had NYC pizza and I still don't think it's as good as some of the places I got it back in Pittsburgh. Maybe it just has to do with where you grow up because my grandma, who grew up in NYC, says the exact opposite.

BLASPHEMY!!! Honestly I really don't care. It really depends on where you get pizza around here; there are some real shithole pizzerias. Lombardi's is absolutely amazing.

 

[Phanto]

I was in the front. Half the crowd hit the floor when the song started (including myself lol) but I guess you can't really see that in the video. It was fucking awesome. Best concert I've ever been to.

 

[noble savage]

AHHHH!! My roommate goes out on Friday and Saturday, gets super fucked up and then sleeps until 2 or 3 pm and it drives me fucking crazy! For about 7 hours after I wake up, I can't do anything in my dorm except silently type on the computer. I don't think I'm going to last another 3 weeks here, let alone until May. This place is really making me question if learning physics is worth my sanity.

Sorry, I just needed to vent!

 

[Kenneth R.]

Jeff Where the foozle are you! You said you'd call me!

 

[Marwen]

AHHHH!! My roommate goes out on Friday and Saturday, gets super fucked up and then sleeps until 2 or 3 pm and it drives me fucking crazy! For about 7 hours after I wake up, I can't do anything in my dorm except silently type on the computer. I don't think I'm going to last another 3 weeks here, let alone until May. This place is really making me question if learning physics is worth my sanity.

Sorry, I just needed to vent!

That ain't fucking fair! where is your amp man?

 

[noble savage]

It's coming back with me on my next visit home!

 

[Beelzebub]

Jeff Where the foozle are you! You said you'd call me!

Yesterday he said he was going to Arizona.