Post your 5 favorite album covers

You telling me to get over myself? Now that's pretty damned amusing.

This sort of self-righteous, pseudo-intellectualism that seems to infest so many aspects of the metal community is a cancer. Simply put, referencing eleventh grade literature and eigth grade formal vocabulary in simple social situations is only impressive to special education students and white trash junkies. Espousing the principles and going through a thorough diatribe and analysis about the definition and application of the word in response to a random, childish insult isn't impressing anybody.

It doesn't seem like you are aware of just how often you contradict yourself, nor how incredibly insipid your innocuous remarks are conveyed. You claim that it is somehow childish of me to respond comprehensively to a debate in a forum, and yet isn't that what you're executing yourself? After all, someone who would denounce me for replying exhaustively to an over-extended written altercation on a message board would surely express a similar reaction to oh, I don't know, somebody who would assail my three-sentence comments with a three-paragraph droning, misguided dissertation about none other than...my three sentences. Pardon me, but I was under the impression that conversing and debating intelligibly was precisely what internet forums were for....in fact, I happen to recollect a time when you yourself weren't so reproachful of this concept.

I was not the one who initiated the topic of conversation, I was merely responding to a question and then to a seemingly random and unnecessarily snobby provocation. Therefore, to reaffirm that you already knew that I was the founding member of such a stupid band is not only redundant, but makes it even more apparent that the only reason that you even bothered posting is to throw in a snide jab. Which, is really pathetic... it seems like your sole reason for posting at large is simply to provoke trivial arguments over inane things so you can blow it out of proportion in a failed attempt to elevate yourself. The suggestion to "get over myself" was totally misplaced and baseless.

You didn't initiate the topic of this conversation? Well then pardon my ignorance, I must have overlooked something crucial because I happen to recall you provoking me with a statement somewhere along the lines of "I've been gone 3 months and DiscipleOfPlato is still moronic, pretentious and conceited blah blah blah," but perhaps I dreamt it.
Also, my assertion that I was aware of your accredited position in your band was a result of YOUR own pointless affirmation of the exact same fact. So that this simple statement isn't misinterpreted(which is very likely to occur considering your reputation), I'll offer you an
Example:
You: "Well, I'm a dumbass...this gives me an excuse to act like a retard."

Myself: "Yes, I know that you are a dumbass, stop reminding me of your petty accomplishments."

What the hell was so gruelingly difficult about comprehending that? You gratuitously repeated a well-known fact, and I confirmed my knowledge of that fact. Now who's the redundant moron?

Now THIS was funny, because you attempted to make a tie between a widely assumed common-sensical truth and behavior that counters it, except, there was none. This is a trademark of the internet pseudo-intellectual: Overstate an assumed truth and masquerade it as pithy wit with a barb of criticism.

Let's really think about that statement: "Being the founding member of a band does not make you impervious to your own stupidity." How is this applicable in any way? Exactly, what is it supposed to mean? Perhaps I'm simply a intellectual inferior, but I really must be missing the point. What is the correlation between being the member of an unkown band and assumed indemnity from personal behavior? Or let's say that was a reference to and criticism of the "humor" of the band which you find (obviously) stupid... again, where does the need to be "immune" from behavior come into play here? More importantly, from where was this derived?

Well done, another invalid surmisal due to your stark inability to comprehend a simple statement. I'll make this brief simply because this tired dispute has worn my patience. Similar to my previous response, I did not make this comment on a whim. You said: "I'm in the band and this gives me an excuse to be stupid." Consequently, I refuted your unwarrantedly-cocksure assertion by telling you that being the founding member of a band does not earn you exoneration from your idiocy. To place it in simpler terms, "You're wrong, you one-dimensional simpleton, you do not have exemption from being a retard." Simple enough?

I believe this discussion has been exhausted. Good day, sir.
 
DiscipleOfPlato said:
Look asshole, forget the fact that not a single word within your response conveys the slightest shred of comprehension in regards to my post, but allow me to address instead your excessive and meaningless use of the word "elitist," which makes Bernard Goldberg's use of the word "conservative" appear like entertainment.

An elitist is defined as "A person who adheres to the belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources." Great. So what correlation does that hold to your narrow perception of my personality? Absolutely none. In no way did I profess a certain bias towards the philosophy known as elitism, and yet you still insist on using the word an unbelievably frequent amount of times. Why then? Is it because you weren't familiar with the correct definition but used the word anyway to project an image of one whom actually has a fucking clue of the nonsense they're spewing? Somehow, I believe so. For some reason, I have a lingering suspicion that you simply read through my "self-glorifying, pretentious paragraph" without the faintest idea of what I was trying to express, and then, childishly irritated, you capitulated to your habitual instinct of furiously battering away at the keyboard in a pathetic attempt to arbitrarily insult me. Does this sound like you? If so, you're a fucking shitbag. And if this response was too wordy for you, consider returning to school and acquiring a GED.

It was from this very post that I recognized a structural pattern, if you will, of a typical "ChopstickInYourPeehole"(I feel like a fucking dolt just typing that) post. His usual posts are structured with key elements in the following manner (don't believe me? Ascertain for yourself):

1. Arbitrary gay-bash(interchangeable with vague homoerotic gesture).
2. Impertinent, half-witted insult.
3. Impish self-contradiction (often occurs in follow-up post).

Let's take into account for the first factor, his consistent reference to me and the entire board as "queers." Never before have I witnessed such an aimless use of the word, and I think I speak for a great number of people here when I state that it's nearly mind-numbing, in a partly-amusing, partly-I-want-to-blow-his-fucking-brains-out fashion. And let's not forget his initial post, claiming that the best cover-art is one depicting a woman sucking on a large penis with teeth(if you missed this, scroll up), hence the ambiguous, homoerotic gesture.

The second factor requires no explanation.

The third strikes me as intriguing, recalling him asserting that his use of a derogatory term(fag) is not meant to imply the actual connotation(homosexual), despite the fact that he's used the word clearly to slam a sexual orientation. This is held evident by the bizarre references to Rob Halford and homosexuality as assistance in proving his point, and his boorish assumption that I am a "leather-clad, spandex-wearing faggy Priest fan."

This subsequently led me to an even more eminent revelation. Are you ready for this? "ChopstickInYourPeehole" is gay! He's an insecure closet-fag! It makes perfect sense, and I would know considering how I've maintained close friendships with homosexuals in the past, and I've understood from experience that these oblique precursors never fail. Why else would he constantly label and bash people as queers and then furtively recant his remarks, shadowing them with euphemistic claims? Now I understand his mindless tendency to lash out at random board-members! It's so obvious, I can't believe I didn't realize it before. He's a sad, tortured soul! Nonetheless, the advice I offer him is to expose his true identity and get over it. Only by coming to solid terms with who we are can we truly be content. Cast away your hateful visage and remember that in the end, we'll still love you
You care about the internet - that's funny. :lol:

The fact that you took everything I said so seriously (Did you read my analogy?) and actually bothered going to so much trouble to defend yourself and put me down is most amusing. Any idiot could see I was just trying to stir up you and the other QUEERS on this board by making stupid, random insults - you're all such sensitive little pansies - but you took it to heart and had a big cry. Sucks to be you.


...and yes I am avoiding all your points of argument. The majority of what you said was so pointless and stupid, it's not worth responding to....except this part:

"A person (you) who adheres to the belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups (people with exceptional grammatical skills) deserve favored treatment (respect and admiration) by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, (everyone should converse as intelligently as you do) social status, (thinking you're the kingpin of the internet) or financial resources."

That sums you up quite well. I also called you an elitist because you're evidently a prog-metal fag. 'Nuff said.
 
Jesus Christ. If I had to give you credit for one thing, it would be your tenacity and ability to out-talk anyone you're arguing with to the point that any option OTHER than discussion seems very inviting.

DiscipleOfPlato said:
It doesn't seem like you are aware of just how often you contradict yourself, nor how incredibly insipid your innocuous remarks are conveyed. You claim that it is somehow childish of me to respond comprehensively to a debate in a forum, and yet isn't that what you're executing yourself? After all, someone who would denounce me for replying exhaustively to an over-extended written altercation on a message board would surely express a similar reaction to oh, I don't know, somebody who would assail my three-sentence comments with a three-paragraph droning, misguided dissertation about none other than...my three sentences. Pardon me, but I was under the impression that conversing and debating intelligibly was precisely what internet forums were for....in fact, I happen to recollect a time when you yourself weren't so reproachful of this concept.

Did you see that? Way over there lurking in the corner, hiding just beyond your very very narrow sphere of mental capacity and perception? The point.

You didn't initiate the topic of this conversation? Well then pardon my ignorance, I must have overlooked something crucial because I happen to recall you provoking me with a statement somewhere along the lines of "I've been gone 3 months and DiscipleOfPlato is still moronic, pretentious and conceited blah blah blah," but perhaps I dreamt it.

I didn't think you were still hung up on that. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings sugarlips, I never meant to hurt you. :erk:

Also, my assertion that I was aware of your accredited position in your band was a result of YOUR own pointless affirmation of the exact same fact. So that this simple statement isn't misinterpreted(which is very likely to occur considering your reputation), I'll offer you an
Example:
You: "Well, I'm a dumbass...this gives me an excuse to act like a retard."

Myself: "Yes, I know that you are a dumbass, stop reminding me of your petty accomplishments."

What the hell was so gruelingly difficult about comprehending that? You gratuitously repeated a well-known fact, and I confirmed my knowledge of that fact. Now who's the redundant moron?

Who's the redundant moron... let's see... the person who repeats an unnecessary fact, or the person who finds twenty ways to convey it. And well known fact? Oh, you flatterer. Kiss me.

Well done, another invalid surmisal due to your stark inability to comprehend a simple statement.

I'll help you out here: "Well done, wrong again." I feel bad for anyone who has the displeasure of talking to you offline, but somehow, I have the succinct impression that that number is very limited. Humor me... how accurate am I?

I'll make this brief simply because this tired dispute has worn my patience.

I simply cannot have this. You must find at least three more ways to reassert the same basic trivialities by using an unwarranted amount of middle school spelling test level adjectives to really drive it home, or I must chalk this up as a win! I mean, what will people think, coming here: If you speak at a natural level, they might actually have to judge the validity of your arguments based on, well, your arguments instead of how you present them. Fancy that.

Similar to my previous response, I did not make this comment on a whim. You said: "I'm in the band and this gives me an excuse to be stupid."

My my, typically such stoic and humorless inhabitants of metal discussion forums have a bit more depth to offer in their musical tastes than Iron Maiden. My comment was in reference to this statement of yours:

Indeed, it's almost as bad as being senselessly emphatic over a paltry band that intentionally releases indecent material. Oh wait...

The general objectivity and distanced reference to my supposed relationship with the band would insinuate that I was just a random obsessee discussing the band here. It came across as if you had made the conclusion that I was simply promoting a random band, and I, going as far as to agree with you that to feel strongly about such a random thing (how ironic, coming from you), said that I had some excuse for doing so (therein, acting like a "fucking retard"), since I had some ties.

To put things in perspective (something that you, as an apparently pathetic, angsty, and self-absorbed psuedo-intellectual critically lack):

Sculpted Cold: So, AGT...?
Me: Just finished this...
You: Dolt.
Me: It's my band, so that's some excuse.
You: Rant

If this is the most important thing you have to worry about today, I don't know whether to envy you or laugh.

Consequently, I refuted your unwarrantedly-cocksure assertion by telling you that being the founding member of a band does not earn you exoneration from your idiocy. To place it in simpler terms, "You're wrong, you one-dimensional simpleton, you do not have exemption from being a retard." Simple enough?

Who fucking uses the word 'cocksure?' I want you to honestly tell me that the word has a place in anyone's vocabulary. Tell me that anyone on the planet will take you seriously for using it, or that anyone will step back and say "THE VOCABULARY ON THIS KID!"

I believe this discussion has been exhausted. Good day, sir.

It is a hell of a day when you run out of hot air. Good day, sah. Cheerio and a pulchritudinous eventide to you and your kin.
 
High On Maiden said:
Point taken, I expected that. Just felt like a laugh. I'll edit it though.
No Problem. It's not that i can't apreciate the comedy. I'm australian and not to many of us have wombats and those that do don't usually take them when we go mining is all. :p
 
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If this is the most important thing you have to worry about today, I don't know whether to envy you or laugh.

I want you to know something. Upon reading your post, I retreated to the restroom and took the biggest shit of my adult life. This event alone has a higher sense of relevance than our heated discussion. I sincerely hope that wasn't too wordy for you.

Who fucking uses the word 'cocksure?' I want you to honestly tell me that the word has a place in anyone's vocabulary

How did a simple forum topic concerning album-covers manage to convert itself into an overblown dispute regarding my vocabulary? I recommend that you purchase a dictionary. I intend to continue using such sinuously, complex terms like "cocksure." Not so much because it comes naturally, which it does, but merely out of spite for you. :)
 
DiscipleOfPlato said:
I want you to know something. Upon reading your post, I retreated to the restroom and took the biggest shit of my adult life. This event alone has a higher sense of relevance than our heated discussion. I sincerely hope that wasn't too wordy for you.

Of course, considering that in many respects, it could be considered an offline continuation of your argument.

DiscipleOfPlato said:
How did a simple forum topic concerning album-covers manage to convert itself into an overblown dispute regarding my vocabulary? I recommend that you purchase a dictionary. I intend to continue using such sinuously, complex terms like "cocksure." Not so much because it comes naturally, which it does, but merely out of spite for you. :)

It has nothing to do with obscurity and everything to do with discontinuance in style: Whether you like the word or not, it is archaic. Using it in a normal context would be no different than using "ere," "thy," or "thee."
 
Nice thread!

Tool- Lateralus
Katatonia- Tonight's Decision
Amorphis- Elegy
Arcturus- Aspera Hiems symfonia/constellation/my angel
Megadeth- Youthanasia (as far as covers go)
 
SunlapseVertigo said:
killer cover to an absolutely killer album.

Indeed, it's one of my favorite albums :D

I was happy to hear them play Fusion Programmed Minds at the show in Chicago on Sunday. I was kind of hoping they would play Reversed Reflections (which happens to be my favorite song on the album), but Fusion is a great song too.
 
dio - holy diver
ozzy osbourne - ultimate sin
iron maiden - killers
metallica - master of puppets
motorhead - orgasmatron