pot smoking

[neal]

heh. cheeba rules. kiyardo sucks. "retardo" is hella funny. and that about sums it up.
-neal

 

[kiyardo]

This thread fucking exploded.

Kiyardo, you should know that Ledmag has this annoying habit of mixing high-school "Your daddy raped you" insults in with his highly intelligent discussion. He's trying to make sure you're paying attention. In any case, give up because your fascist viewpoint is making you no friends and winning you no arguments. Let's talk about Overkill instead.

So, now I'm a fascist because I don't do drugs or because I think drugs are bad. Hrmmmm......interesting. Well, it won't be me saying "Hello from the gutter" or 'sucking on the tit of discontent' in some sort of "Gasoline Dream" No, sir. I prefer to stay "Wide F**kin Open" on sobriety and reality. Those who use drugs have the "Devil by the Tail" and he's about to turn around and bite.

 

[Ihreil Junkenstein]

No fool, you're a facist because your opinions are that anyone who does drugs is wrong.
Hitler had similar ideas about things. For fucks sake, your so far up your own arse you don't even understand insults.

Go get a blow job and loosen up.

 

[kiyardo]

Hitler had ideas about genocide and self rule. You really need to learn your history, buddy. You people that keep calling me gratuitous names need to learn the definitions of the names you use. You have all lost the intellectual argument, so you persist in insulting me personally and avoiding the subject.

If you think drugs are good, then you have a couple of screws loose. There simply is no defense for drug use. Everyone has bad habits. I do too. I don't try and justify my bad habits. I know they aren't good. It doesn't mean that people who do stupid things are stupid themselves or bad, so to speak. But, nonetheless, some of those in the 'drug community' defend drug use to the point that they say it's actually good for you. Well, I think you will find that most cigarette smokers are smart people, but will readily admit that cigarette smoking is stupid.

Yet, you guys will defend drug use till the cows come home. I think it's amusing because it's so assinine.

 

[Lies and Perfidy]

Drugs can be good for some people. Besides the oft-debated medicinal marijuana topic, there's also the abilities of pot to calm people down and help them get off far more harmful drugs.

I'm not defending marijuana, I'm defending the RIGHT of people to smoke marijuana if they so choose. To take away that right when it can help them is, indeed, fascism.

Tell me something, how much experience with weed have you had? You, your friends, your family, etc. Enlighten us...or let me shut that for you.

 

[Chromatose]

what I find amusing is how assinine your viewpoints of a world where everything is black and white are.

there's more than just bad and good out there, I'd actually respect your opinions of drugs = bad if you acknowledged that doesn't mean bad for everyone, just bad for you, and apparantly everyone you know, unfortunately

 

[kiyardo]

Drugs can be good for some people. Besides the oft-debated medicinal marijuana topic, there's also the abilities of pot to calm people down and help them get off far more harmful drugs.

Thank you for engaging in civil discussion about this! I appreciate it. Prescription drugs can be good for you in most cases when prescibed. Recreational drug use is never good for you. THC, the main ingredient in marijuana is used to treat disease and treatment side effects. Marinol is the pill form of THC. It has helped, but the FDA needs to approve clinical THC mist which would be far more effective than Marinol or a marijuana joint. Pot does not help people get off of more harmful drugs, if anything it is a gateway to the more harmful drugs.

I'm not defending marijuana, I'm defending the RIGHT of people to smoke marijuana if they so choose. To take away that right when it can help them is, indeed, fascism.

Well then, we live in a fascist country then don't we? I don't think so.
People do have the right to do harm to themselves I guess, if that's what they so choose, but when it effects the lives and liberties of those it surrounds, then it should stay illegal. When you are high on drugs, you become a threat to those around you, and can become dangerous and violent. PCP and Meth are perfect examples. Marijuana, though not nearly as harmful, does effect judgement to the point where those in the user's sphere of influence could be harmed by misjudgements or lack of reaction time if one was sober. The point with marijuana is that a line must be drawn somewhere, and that line is drawn with mind altering drugs. marijuana is such a drug. That's my opinion.

Tell me something, how much experience with weed have you had? You, your friends, your family, etc. Enlighten us...or let me shut that for you.

I've never smoked weed myself, but don't need to to understand that it's bad for you, and that it can be dangerous. EVERYONE that I know who has smoked weed has indeed tried harder drugs, including crank, cocaine, acid, meth, etc. Drugs are bad news. Just ask Ozzy, Dave Mustaine, James Hetfield, Nikki Sixx (Who actually was clinically dead from a heroin overdose), and Ted Nugent, who never used drugs, but has certainly seen people who have during his lifetime.

 

[Guerrilla]

People do have the right to do harm to themselves I guess, if that's what they so choose, but when it effects the lives and liberties of those it surrounds, then it should stay illegal. When you are high on drugs, you become a threat to those around you, and can become dangerous and violent. PCP and Meth are perfect examples. Marijuana, though not nearly as harmful, does effect judgement to the point where those in the user's sphere of influence could be harmed by misjudgements or lack of reaction time if one was sober. The point with marijuana is that a line must be drawn somewhere, and that line is drawn with mind altering drugs. marijuana is such a drug. That's my opinion.

Why don't you take a look at the Netherlands. The people there seem to be coping just fine with the "horrible effects of the legalization of marijuana".

 

[Ihreil Junkenstein]

RETARDO-
"Hitler had ideas about genocide and self rule. You really need to learn your history, buddy."

And he was roundabout the same extermity against jews, homosexuals, and nearly everything that wasn't aryan that you have against drugs.

I got an A in my history A level specialising in Hitler and stalin. I know what I'm talking about and was using an extreme example to show how petty you are.

Seriously, That blow job I mentioned.... Even If you have to PAY for it, you need it man.

 

[ledmag]

Thank you for engaging in civil discussion about this!


***You mean, your ready to be civil dont you? Its been tried and failed with you already by at least 4 different ppl. Your becoming more and more clear. ITS ALL ABOUT YOU.****

I appreciate it.

***No you dont. Your a liar***


Prescription drugs can be good for you in most cases when prescibed. Recreational drug use is never good for you. THC, the main ingredient in marijuana is used to treat disease and treatment side effects. Marinol is the pill form of THC. It has helped, but the FDA needs to approve clinical THC mist which would be far more effective than Marinol or a marijuana joint. Pot does not help people get off of more harmful drugs, if anything it is a gateway to the more harmful drugs.

***Then why did a few of the ppl i know (INCLUDING MYSELF MR KNOW IT ALL) get off Coke by using POT? You dont know it all, Far from it (not that i do klnow it all, but i know what i haev experienced). I know first hand POT can help in getting you off harder drugs. GATE WAY...ALCOHOL is more of a gate way drug than POT. Fuck dude, i know lots of ppl who started with BEER (including MYSELF onec again) and went on to harder things. On the other hand, i know ppl intheir 40's who have never taken a fuckin asperine in their life, never been to a doctor, and never taken prescription medicene, yet they smoke POT. Nothing more, nothing less. YOu are right i suppose concerning some PPL, but with EVERYONE, you way off. You do not have the privilage of knowing all that you would like to know, or claim you know. ****



Well then, we live in a fascist country then don't we? I don't think so.
People do have the right to do harm to themselves I guess, if that's what they so choose, but when it effects the lives and liberties of those it surrounds, then it should stay illegal.

***ITs weird, you cant kill yourself lagally, but you can drink and smoke youself to death legally. I suppose your all for the outlaw of cigs as well. What about Alc? You want it baned as well? WHy dont you bitch about real DRUGS for a change. You do know that other drugs are far more deadly and also illegal? ***


When you are high on drugs, you become a threat to those around you, and can become dangerous and violent.
PCP and Meth are perfect examples.

**Its about time.....You hit a nail, and didnt miss it.You get a sucker hey.***

Marijuana, though not nearly as harmful, does effect judgement to the point where those in the user's sphere of influence could be harmed by misjudgements or lack of reaction time if one was sober.

***yeah, you haev a greater chance of falling in the tub and getting hurt than you do by someone misjudgeing on weed. BTW, you must live near the GRERATEST FUCKING WEED IN THE WORLD. Cause dude, WEED does not get you so fucking high you cant control yorself. Sure, you slow down a bit (lots at first, ten you get USED to it), nothing more than being sleepy. "lack of reaction time if one was sober" fuck hahahahahaha...***

The point with marijuana is that a line must be drawn somewhere, and that line is drawn with mind altering drugs. marijuana is such a drug. That's my opinion.I've never smoked weed myself, but don't need to to understand that it's bad for you, and that it can be dangerous.

***Ok, since you ahvent smoked it, and you really dont know whatyour speaking about (of which i knew the whole fucking time, it was all to clear buy the way you haev described it as DANGEROUSE TO PPL AROUND USERS). Then dude, your a fucking hyp-o-cryte. A big one. So, you go for what your government, nd health ads say, but you will not take the word of ppl who have used the stuff fro over 15 yrs? Pal, you should just leave this place to the rest of us. You dont belong here. You cant fucking argue for 3 fucking pages, and not be experienced. Your a fucking loser (not for not doing drugs, i comend you on that note. Yes i do. Its cool to hear of one your age who had been drug free for their whole life). You just pop your mouth, and you haev no grounds to stand on. Anything you say dealing with drugs, should be thrown out like the trash, cause YOU HAVe NO CLUE. I cnat belive you have set your sorry ass at your computer, and the whole time, your were talking out your ass. Hey, you can do two things with your ass at the same time.....yet again, another sucker for you. How can you form an opinion without the experience to back it up? You cant, you sir, are NOTHING but a FIRE HIDRANT. SPRAYING OFF YOUR MOUTH......****



EVERYONE that I know who has smoked weed has indeed tried harder drugs, including crank, cocaine, acid, meth, etc. Drugs are bad news. Just ask Ozzy, Dave Mustaine, James Hetfield, Nikki Sixx (Who actually was clinically dead from a heroin overdose), and Ted Nugent, who never used drugs, but has certainly seen people who have during his lifetime.

Your a waste of time in this subject.

You should go to church. You would be right at home. And i dont mean some regular church, im talking one where you cant watch tv, you cnat wear rings etc, you must wear pants if your a man, and a dress if your a woman...ETC....you would buy the whole lot stoock and barrel.

BTW, you wnat to buy some land? Your so gulable........GULABLE YOU ARE.

 

[Lies and Perfidy]

That kinda sums it up. The people who "went on to harder drugs" obviously had no self-control to begin with, because I know ONE person who smoked pot and then went on to another drug (meth), and that is likely because of the asshole she was dating at the time. (Long story). Everyone else I know has not become addicted to any harder drugs, and two people I know personally (plus many those two know) have used pot to get off hard drugs.

Seriously, where are your friends getting this super-judgment-impairing weed? You could make a killing selling this shit.

 

[neal]

i did mushrooms last night and smoked a ton of bud. ill bet retardo thinks im the anti-christ.
-neal

 

[Lies and Perfidy]

Damnit, I'M the Anti-Christ! STOP TRYING TO STEAL MY SPOTLIGHT!!!

 

[neal]

sorry.
-neal

 

[lizard]

this thread has become pointless.

 

[Lies and Perfidy]

In other words, like everything else on the board?

 

[lizard]

yeah pretty much
I'd be more than willing to start up even more meaningless threads, like "Who's the best singer, Luciano Pavoratti (sp) or James Hetfield?"

and "POLL: Is WD a drunk because he invites all his fans on stage.
1. yes
2. no

 

[Lies and Perfidy]

1. Hetfield, because he still has his testicles.
2. I think you're mixing up cause and effect...he invites fans onstage BECAUSE he's a drunk. And he's just cool that way.

 

[lizard]

here's a swell record I used to listen to when I used to smoke pot. It shows the true depravity of pot smoking. also, if you spun it backwards, you can hear, "marijuana is the gateway to wanting to have sex with small furry animals."

 

[Chromatose]

"marijuana is the gateway to wanting to have sex with small furry animals."

and thats why i had to quit, it was getting way too out of hand.


you can only go to the petting zoo so many times before people start getting suspicious.