Yeah. Saying Opeth only has "slight progressive tendencies" is a HUGE understatement. It'd probably be more correct to say they have slight death metal tendencies. They're definitely quite the Progressive band.
Potential headliners for the future?
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Dolamite S. Biffle
Biffliest Person Ever
Actually Tool would be offended to classified as metal. In one interview Maynard said that metal is for pirates and we are certainly not pirates.
13ShadesofGray
RI Porch Commando
Do I think Doro could adequately fill a Level 3 or 4 spot at PP without being out of the festival's budget? Absolutely. With half the band already living here in the US it wouldn't be impossible ... especially if they played the same year as Kamelot, then Oliver could just play with a different band each night.Or get Chris Caffery to play that year too since they've also share some band members.
Absolutely agree - The suggestion stems from having had at least one female fronted act involved in the fest. imho, She would probably be the most copious female fronted act that hasn't been on the PP stage other than Heart or Lana Lane, who wouldn't necessarily fit (but who I would personally love to see). Warlock reunion would be pretty friggin' cool, especially with the musicians you mentioned. Not sure if that music falls into the Prog or Power category enough, though. I hear them, and Doro actually, as more straight up Metal.
Man, I wouldn't want to be in Mr. Harveston's shoes in this regard.
Pellaz
Tigron of Immanion
This thread has officially degenerated, as per the requirements in the Progressive Music Discussion Manual.
Just as any long-term discussion of prog-rock is doomed to degenerate into arguing the various incarnations of Yes and which was the best lineup, any long-term discussion of progressive metal will degenerate into invoking Dream Theater and "which album is the best."
Fine. Book 'em for the Showcase.
Yep. We can discern that Dream Theater was more responsible for assembling the tour.
The crowd was pretty much 50/50 on the two headliners on that bill, at least here.
LOL.
Listen to Opeth's "Deliverance" and then tell me it isn't an epic, progressive piece. Before they played it here, Mikael A. called it a masterpiece. He isn't known for having an ego about their stuff, and I sure won't argue with him over "Deliverance."
Just as any long-term discussion of prog-rock is doomed to degenerate into arguing the various incarnations of Yes and which was the best lineup, any long-term discussion of progressive metal will degenerate into invoking Dream Theater and "which album is the best."
Fine. Book 'em for the Showcase.
Yep. We can discern that Dream Theater was more responsible for assembling the tour.
The crowd was pretty much 50/50 on the two headliners on that bill, at least here.
LOL.
Listen to Opeth's "Deliverance" and then tell me it isn't an epic, progressive piece. Before they played it here, Mikael A. called it a masterpiece. He isn't known for having an ego about their stuff, and I sure won't argue with him over "Deliverance."
13ShadesofGray
RI Porch Commando
Arrr, This wench be thinkin' 'bout donnin' a software pirate costume for All Hallow's Eve, matey.
Ok, end Pirate Mode and back to the topic at hand. hehe
shaq
Demon of the Fall
Ascension
New Metal Member
allmusic.com said:
Wikipedia said:
According to the logic you are trying to apply...the argument could be made that they are a folk band...or even a jazz band.
But, those would be wrong also.dcowboys311 said:
Could be that you're the uneducated one that's full of shit. Some people's chilluns...
My picks aren't based on record sales, but based on bands I would want to see based on their amount of good material, not based on how the material sold or how much material they have, but solely on good material, so 2 perfect cds could mean a headline position.
Nevermore
Opeth
Sylosis(their newest cd has some amazing moments and I would rather see them than Bodom anyday)
Vintersorg
Nocturnal Rites
Between the Buried and Me
Trivium
Bloodbath
Soilwork
I know a lot of my picks have agressive vocals, but everybody's definition of progressive and power is different, and to me all of these bands are powerful and have some if not a lot of progressive elements, and they all just slay with tons of amazing songs that just make you get lost in their music, and I know I will get crap for Trivium, but I think their new cd slays and have also liked most of their 2 previous cds as well.
Nevermore
Opeth
Sylosis(their newest cd has some amazing moments and I would rather see them than Bodom anyday)
Vintersorg
Nocturnal Rites
Between the Buried and Me
Trivium
Bloodbath
Soilwork
I know a lot of my picks have agressive vocals, but everybody's definition of progressive and power is different, and to me all of these bands are powerful and have some if not a lot of progressive elements, and they all just slay with tons of amazing songs that just make you get lost in their music, and I know I will get crap for Trivium, but I think their new cd slays and have also liked most of their 2 previous cds as well.
This is coming from someone who's using Wikipedia for a legitimate resource in a genre debate.
mëtålspëd
Umlauts ist Krieg
shaq
Demon of the Fall
mel_progson
Member
I would like to see these bands headline the fest in the future...
Watchtower
James Labrie (with the lineup on his last cd, I believe he did shows with that lineup too?)
Nevermore
Watchtower
James Labrie (with the lineup on his last cd, I believe he did shows with that lineup too?)
Nevermore
Ascension
New Metal Member
It's as valid a source as say...someone's personal opinion. Maybe moreso in fact. I don't see you offering any legitimacy to anything...just personal opinion...which is worth something, but only to you of course.
shaq
Demon of the Fall
rms
Active Member
instead of complaining about what genre gaypeth is, spend that time finding good bands
seconding on watchtower...prog thrash innovators and the bes to do it as well..
seconding on watchtower...prog thrash innovators and the bes to do it as well..
mel_progson
Member
Pellaz
Tigron of Immanion
LOL. Beat me to it.
And as for Wikipedia being better than someone's personal opinion......uh, it -is- someone's personal opinion.
AllMusic isn't much better.
Looong overdue for the States, but not at PP. (I used to list them as a potential sponsoree every year, but Glenn knows my tastes quite well by now, so they're kinda there by osmosis.)
Oh, but you were asking Rushzil. Somehow, I think he's aware of the band.
Heh.
Call it a dinner break.
For many.
Probably most.
I'll eat after the night is over, though.
dcowboys311
Member
Here's the catch: genres aren't a matter of opinion. If that were the case, it would be 100% valid for me to call Led Zeppelin trip-hop, At the Gates noise rock, and Britney Spears death metal. They're a defined set of criterion used to separate different sounds of music. Opeth doesn't have any qualities of death metal at all, aside from the vocals.
