PZM incorporated into drums?

[Loren Littlejohn]

I know it's been brought up briefly but never in any detail. I was thinking of throwing some pressure zone mics somewhere when I track drums next month (2 of them). Any suggestions? Where do people normally put them? The surface will be hard (the floor, or wall ).

I can't remember the company (I think AKG but yeah... don't remember if that is even right).


But anyhow if/when you use these (in combination of room mics and OH mics) where do you put them, are there major phase issues etc...?

 

[Sloan]

In that IN FLAMES article, they had them on the floor under the drums, this is also how they're arranged in BFD I think.
I would say try that and if it sucks balls, use them as room/ambient mics.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Really? No one? Not a popular thing to do?

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

In that IN FLAMES article, they had them on the floor under the drums, this is also how they're arranged in BFD I think.
I would say try that and if it sucks balls, use them as room/ambient mics.

See I figure if they suck I'll scrap the tracks since I have a pair of earthworks that I will be using for the room.

Thanks though that was my first thought for placement.

 

[Sinister Mephisto]

A lot of people around here stick them on the walls. They're kind of nice room mics. I know some people put them on the glass between the control room and the live room, although I've never tried that myself.

 

[paladin shredder]

i've seen two of them used as ambient mics on the floor for drums. just use something like string or mic cable to measure equal distance from them to the snare to take care of phase issues. they did indeed sound good that way. i've heard of people using them in kick drums, but never heard and example of that.

 

[Sloan]

Didn't they like tape a PZM on Neil Peart's chest for some gay Rush record or something?

 

[Sloan]

Neil Peart (Rush's drummer) taped one to the front of his shirt to record "Vital Signs"

thanks internet!

 

[colonel kurtz]

just stick 'em wherever they sound cool....floor, walls, ceiling, who gives a shit

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

I just checked (samsonite I was WAY OFF) and the mics are Audio technica unipoint boundry mic.

 

[AudioGeekZine]

Shure Beta 91 sounds awesome in the kick.

otherwise use them as room mics on the floor or taped to the wall.

 

[ahjteam]

I know it's been brought up briefly but never in any detail. I was thinking of throwing some pressure zone mics somewhere when I track drums next month (2 of them). Any suggestions? Where do people normally put them? The surface will be hard (the floor, or wall ).

I can't remember the company (I think AKG but yeah... don't remember if that is even right).


But anyhow if/when you use these (in combination of room mics and OH mics) where do you put them, are there major phase issues etc...?

I use a PZM kickmick, Sennheiser e901. Placed inside the kickdrum on something soft like piece of foam or a towel

 

[KeithTidd]

I talked to ryan hewitt at this industry event, and he said he puts PZMs on the ceiling above the drumsets.

 

[Jesse Z]

I talked to ryan hewitt at this industry event, and he said he puts PZMs on the ceiling above the drumsets.

Would that be the Tape-Op Roadshow at the Hangar?

 

[Rob Logic]

...(samsonite I was WAY OFF)

Lol! Classic... I love that movie!

 

[KeithTidd]

Would that be the Tape-Op Roadshow at the Hangar?

yep. although when he said it, he might have just been referring to the song he was playing in the control room. It sounded good to me.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

I read a guitar deal in recording a while ago where a PZM was stuck in the back of a fender amp to the right and under the speaker. It was recommended to use a cheapy in that situation though.

I'll probably just throw them under the kit behind the drummer. Who knows right?

 

[Roondaggio]

I was in a session with a guy who took two of them, put them on the floor (facing the floor, not the ceiling) about 10 feet in front of the kit, maybe five feet apart. Sure, using traditional room mics adds a lot of ambience and can add some depth, but you can get some awesome low-end action using PZM's in this way.

 

[Jesse Z]

I say walk about the room whilst the drummer plays and put them wherever the kit/room sounds the fullest.

 

[everybody's x]

I put them in an equal triangle from the center of the kick drum about four feet in front of the kick. and around 4 feet apart