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New Raventale track "From The Black Well...". Astaroth was using his own vocals this time. http://www.myspace.com/raventale
Raventale - for fans of "post Burzum" stuff like Drudkh
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It's still alright, but I reckon he's on a downwards slope at this point. That song wasn't nearly as good as anything on the debut. The monotone repetitiveness is not something he pulls off well; he should definitely stick to the melodic, dirge-like stuff. Also, that eerie, haunting, ethereal keyboard thing that black metal kids seem to love these days have been done to death by artists far better than him.
Oh, and his vocals kinda suck.
Other than that, I have no complaints.
Oh, and his vocals kinda suck.
Other than that, I have no complaints.
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Well, his vocals might "suck" comparing to the vocals on the first album, but in general that will work, imo.
But don't you notice how he needs to cover them up with that lame effect to make them seem distant? That'll get really annoying really fast.
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WhiteBeastofWotan
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Tranquillian
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I really like the style of the new track. It sounds very much like Katatonia through a bedroom black metal filter.
EricT
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http://rapidshare.com/files/151107952/Raventale_-_Davno_ushedshih_dney__2008_.rar.html
I haven't listened to it yet. Arse Magma, are you gonna cover this one on your distro?
BTW, I think the RC hype machine did it's job on this one. The 2006 release got tossed around like a dirty little girl... everyone and their mother is a Raventale fan now.
I haven't listened to it yet. Arse Magma, are you gonna cover this one on your distro?
BTW, I think the RC hype machine did it's job on this one. The 2006 release got tossed around like a dirty little girl... everyone and their mother is a Raventale fan now.
Tranquillian
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Ars Magna
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Tranquillian
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Ars Magna
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They wrote back and I should have copies within the next couple of weeks. I'll let you know once they have arrived.
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Most people like the first release more. It's definitely because of vocals.
But the second one is just different, it's more private and more deep.
But the second one is just different, it's more private and more deep.
Claws of Perdition
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I like the new album, not sure on which one is better atm.
Note the Anathema cover Sunset if the Age.
Note the Anathema cover Sunset if the Age.
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I have only had a chance to listen to the tracks on myspace and the albums at work on a shitty headset, so my opinions at this time will not be fully formed. Hopefully I will have a chance to listen to both of them more attentively when I get home from work later.
Keeping in mind the above, here are my observations. Firstly, I do not see any real resemblance to Drudkh, other than the vocals on the first album, and that both are Ukranian. Musically, they are quite different, as Keys/Synth add a very different dynamic to music. I think Burzum, mentioned in the title, is a more apt comparison in terms of similarities. Drudkh oozes a strong sense of misanthropy, slow and menacing, though the prone to quick bouts of anger. For Darktale, to be honest, Flame Shredding the Skies at the beginning in particular reminds me of a sound akin to Dimmu Borgir's "Enthrone Darkness Triumphant". I wonder how many people are now scarred with this revelation.. Only that part though really, On a Crystal's Wing is quite varied between the songs.
Regardless, the vocals on the first album set the bar pretty high, and a change would obviously turn people off. Feeling more comfortable with his music, he wanted to venture down the path of his own vocal style to impart his own essence on the music. The first album, regardless of the music, exudes the feeling of strength, power, and an even epic or majestic tone. 1:40 into "Resinous Blackness of A Skies" however reveals much more depraved vocals (this isn't the only time in that song, just an example). Judging from the second album, these parts are sung by Astaroth.
If it is him then, why was this not continued on the second album? Crimson Velvet's comment about the effects is entirely accurate. Those effects used to create the illusion of distance is what really ruins the vocals. Clearer, and more focused, with an emphasis on what I heard in that specific part of "Resinous..." would be brilliant. With proper use of vocals and guitar, an overwhelming atmosphere can be created without the use of keys/synth at all. As I do listen to melodic black metal, I do appreciate keys, but the less is more approach generally is best. There are a few parts where I find myself wishing the keys simply did not exist in the music at all.
The second album has a much stronger doom vibe. I'll have to listen to them a few more times to form a better opinion, but I think the second album is the stronger of the two, regardless of my feelings about the vocals. Really, there aren't enough of them to sway me into disliking the album because of them.
Keeping in mind the above, here are my observations. Firstly, I do not see any real resemblance to Drudkh, other than the vocals on the first album, and that both are Ukranian. Musically, they are quite different, as Keys/Synth add a very different dynamic to music. I think Burzum, mentioned in the title, is a more apt comparison in terms of similarities. Drudkh oozes a strong sense of misanthropy, slow and menacing, though the prone to quick bouts of anger. For Darktale, to be honest, Flame Shredding the Skies at the beginning in particular reminds me of a sound akin to Dimmu Borgir's "Enthrone Darkness Triumphant". I wonder how many people are now scarred with this revelation.
. Only that part though really, On a Crystal's Wing is quite varied between the songs.Regardless, the vocals on the first album set the bar pretty high, and a change would obviously turn people off. Feeling more comfortable with his music, he wanted to venture down the path of his own vocal style to impart his own essence on the music. The first album, regardless of the music, exudes the feeling of strength, power, and an even epic or majestic tone. 1:40 into "Resinous Blackness of A Skies" however reveals much more depraved vocals (this isn't the only time in that song, just an example). Judging from the second album, these parts are sung by Astaroth.
If it is him then, why was this not continued on the second album? Crimson Velvet's comment about the effects is entirely accurate. Those effects used to create the illusion of distance is what really ruins the vocals. Clearer, and more focused, with an emphasis on what I heard in that specific part of "Resinous..." would be brilliant. With proper use of vocals and guitar, an overwhelming atmosphere can be created without the use of keys/synth at all. As I do listen to melodic black metal, I do appreciate keys, but the less is more approach generally is best. There are a few parts where I find myself wishing the keys simply did not exist in the music at all.
The second album has a much stronger doom vibe. I'll have to listen to them a few more times to form a better opinion, but I think the second album is the stronger of the two, regardless of my feelings about the vocals. Really, there aren't enough of them to sway me into disliking the album because of them.
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It took much longer than expected, but I finally have copies of the latest album. I've got about a dozen. I probably won't do a proper site update for at least a week but I thought I would let you guys know. If you want one prior to that, PM me.
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~Neurotica
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The album is ready. As for the date - as far as I know he's in search for label and got a few that would produce the release. Next few months - maximum term, I think. I'll let you know when I'll have more of info.
