recommend me some avant-garde noise and jazz

[livingtodie]

so i've been lately getting into pain killer and naked city and all of
john zorn's works, and it got me to wonder,
are there more chaotic fast and brutal jazz/noise music out there
outside the realm of metal?
i know japan has a really good noise scene, but i don't know where
to start. if anyone out there is versed in this field could you give me some
recommendations?

 

[phonetic]

Masonna
Merzbow
Aube
Hijokaidan
Hanatarash
Mitchell Akiyama
Incapacitants
Government Alpha
LSD March
KK Null
Sachiko M
Whitehouse
Bastard Noise
Muslimgauze
Yellow Swans
Keiji Haino
Throbbing Gristle
Imminent Starvation
Nurse With Wound

That lot should give you a good introduction to noise/avant-garde/whatever you want to call it.

 

[Teh Grimace]

trevor dunn's trio convulsant

some of The Vandermark 5's stuff

 

[Perpetual Catatonia]

I'm not a pro on this stuff, but... Crotchduster. Celtic Frost too, but you probably already know them.

 

[unknown]

FLAT EARTH SOCIETY

this jazz group is phenomenal...love their stuff

 

[Hatebreeder]

Ichorous.

 

[duncang]

Naked City anyone?

 

[unknown]

Ichorous.

too bad V5 doesn't come here

 

[Teh Grimace]

also the FLYING motherfucking LUTTENBACHERS.

as good and as dissonant as new 'jazz' gets.

 

[Bird of prey]

Masonna

I also recommend Mike Patton's solo project "Adult Themes For Voice".

 

[Sonnenritter]

I've seen a few good noise bands in my day. Sword Heaven are quite an experience, though I don't know how their albums stand up to their live performance.

Swans (select releases) and MZ412 are two other good choices.

 

[ohiogrinder]

I know tons of noisecore

DxIxE
Final Exit
Anal Massaker
Vulgar Nausea
Genital Masticator
None Of Your Fucking Business
Napalm Suck
Cadaver Feast
Rectal Leak
Deche Charge
Captain 3 Leg
Potabilizadora
Arsedestroyer
(early) Anal Cunt
Seven Minutes Of Nausea
Excreted Alive
Jangle


give those bands a try

 

[ohiogrinder]

I'm not a pro on this stuff, but... Crotchduster. Celtic Frost too, but you probably already know them.

when was Celtic Frost avant garde noise or jazz?

 

[Perpetual Catatonia]

I think some of their stuff seem's a bit Avant-Gardey. (Avant-Gardey?)

 

[Teh Grimace]

if by "avant-garde" you mean "not avant-garde" then yes.

 

[unknown]

I also recommend Mike Patton's solo project "Adult Themes For Voice".

I can't stand that cd. I love Mike Patton and his projects, but the two solo cds of his that I've heard (Adult Themes and the one with the Italian Title) did absolutely nothing for me. Adult Themes for Voice is literally just Mike Patton screaming and making vocals noises into a tape recorder for half an hour.

there's avant garde, and then there's just fucking pointless

 

[Hatebreeder]

"Don't mistake lack of talent for genius."

This can be applied to most noise.

 

[Teh Grimace]

the last two posts are incorrect. please disregard.

 

[unknown]

I can't stand that cd. I love Mike Patton and his projects, but the two solo cds of his that I've heard (Adult Themes and the one with the Italian Title) did absolutely nothing for me. Adult Themes for Voice is literally just Mike Patton screaming and making vocals noises into a tape recorder for half an hour.

there's avant garde, and then there's just fucking pointless

no, this post was correct

 

[ResistExistence]

also the FLYING motherfucking LUTTENBACHERS.

as good and as dissonant as new 'jazz' gets.

Great band.

Anyways, as for avant-jazz:

John Coltrane (late-period)
Miles Davis's "Bitches Brew"
Peter Brotzmann Octet