Salvia Divinorum

[Night Mare]

I completely swore off all drugs as of last Monday, simply because I had a BAD night on the weed. I had been drinking beforehand and it just hit me hard, I couldn't move or talk because I was so nauseous. I felt so shit at the time that I just decided I wasn't going to do it again, I think I overreacted, but I guess I have to stand by it now.
Shame though, all this talk has put me in the mood for a joint, a drink, and some music to fly away with...

 

[MFJ]

I completely swore off all drugs as of last Monday, simply because I had a BAD night on the weed. I had been drinking beforehand and it just hit me hard, I couldn't move or talk because I was so nauseous. I felt so shit at the time that I just decided I wasn't going to do it again, I think I overreacted, but I guess I have to stand by it now.
Shame though, all this talk has put me in the mood for a joint, a drink, and some music to fly away with...

Don't ever make promises like that to yourself. If I had a nickel for every time I swore off a drug/drugs, well I'd have like 20 cents probably. Just tell yourself that it's time to chill out for a little bit.

The reefer always calls back to youuuuuuuu

 

[Night Mare]

Don't ever make promises like that to yourself. If I had a nickel for every time I swore off a drug/drugs, well I'd have like 20 cents probably. Just tell yourself that it's time to chill out for a little bit.

The reefer always calls back to youuuuuuuu

I know exactly what you mean, if I got a dollar for all the times I have heard my mates say that... well then they probably would have paid off their debts to me, but I am a stubborn bastard, and although in the end I will most likely give it another chance, for now I am off it, more as a matter of personal pride than anything. If I can prove to myself that I don't have any strong compulstion to go back and keep doing it, then I will feel safer doing it casually, if that makes sense.
I am kind of paranoid, mainly because 80% of my mates are completely drug-fucked, and I am prone to odd moods swings and that sort of thing, so I am careful.

 

[MFJ]

I am kind of paranoid, mainly because 80% of my mates are completely drug-fucked, and I am prone to odd moods swings and that sort of thing, so I am careful.

Yeahhhhhhh I can pretty much say the same. Once and a while I'll notice that I'm becoming a little too dependent... only then is it time to cool off for a bit.

 

[lizard]

you should read Tom Wolfe's Electric Kool Aid Acid Test

 

[Crimson Velvet]

If usage of a reasonably safe drug can help one see things differently and experience things that transcend normal, tedious, miserable life, then -- after careful thought -- I have decided I won't be too quick to dismiss it. Senses can be altered or heightened in many ways -- this is little different to my eyes than transcendence by listening to music, drinking alcohol, walking in forests or what have you.

Or maybe you should show some character, and shape reality as you perceive it without drugs to something that can be enjoyed. Sure, it's harder, and maybe not as tempting right now, but at least there's no way you can look back on it with regret if you show the courage to actually do it. Drugs are a quick fix and an easy route to a little false happiness, so leave it to those who must shape themselves, and carve the world to suit you. It lasts longer.

 

[lurch70]

Or maybe you should show some character, and shape reality as you perceive it without drugs to something that can be enjoyed. Sure, it's harder, and maybe not as tempting right now, but at least there's no way you can look back on it with regret if you show the courage to actually do it. Drugs are a quick fix and an easy route to a little false happiness, so leave it to those who must shape themselves, and carve the world to suit you. It lasts longer.

i like you ...

I am not going to preach ... but those of you "dabbling" just make sure you don't get to the point where you come here and ask for $6 by paypal to pay your electric bill.

 

[Crimson Velvet]

 

[lizard]

I will admit I've seen some real acid casualties.

 

[Conspicuously Absent]

Mini Rant for the middle ground. Having tried some of the "safer"/"milder" drugs and drunk a lot, I'll say this much. They really have both the same effect. Either way, inebriation is something you should only do once in a while, lest things you enjoy doing (music, games, biking, reading, whatever) cease to become fun unless you have imbibed some form of substance.

This is part of the reason why I never drink alone (odd beer with dinner/or on a hot day is the exception) and why I do drugs very very rarely. I could go the rest of my life, enjoy the shit out of it and never touch either booze or drugs again. I really could, because I enjoy the things I do to their fullest sober. And once in a while, a little bit of substance abuse (alcohol/weed, same diff) can help to create an extra layer of awesomeness to an already awesome adventure.

 

[Erik]

Or maybe you should show some character, and shape reality as you perceive it without drugs to something that can be enjoyed.

Why? I mean, "reality"* provides some things that can certainly be enjoyable; other things transcend "reality" in the sense of normal day-to-day life where quite frankly not much in the way of extraordinary shit happens. Being an artist (PRETENTIOUSNESS WARNING) with a deep interest in the most transcendent and atmospheric of music I have a certain INTEREST in maybe looking beyond. It has nothing to do with weakness, lack of courage, lack of character (I hope you were trying to insult me because you succeeded) or even escape. It's not even about "happiness", it's about a certain will to explore that which common "reality" may not be able to provide.

* Everything is reality

 

[lizard]

I will say, hanging out with buds of both kinds can make for a hugely amusing night and/or weekend.

 

[Erik]

i like you ...

I am not going to preach ... but those of you "dabbling" just make sure you don't get to the point where you come here and ask for $6 by paypal to pay your electric bill.

Salvia Divinorum, Psilocybin, etc. are not addictive substances. Also it's not like these are the kind of drugs you end up having to take to function properly after using them a while; it's more of the sort of drug where if you take them, for a short while you absolutely CANNOT function normally. AT ALL.

 

[Conspicuously Absent]

everything can become addictive/habitual. be it picking your nose, choking it or doing a non-addictive drug. Some drugs just happen to cause a chemical dependency.

 

[lurch70]

are not addictive substances

neither is weed ... they say

 

[Chromatose]

make sure you don't get to the point where you come here and ask for $6 by paypal to pay your electric bill.

zing!

 

[Erik]

And once in a while, a little bit of substance abuse (alcohol/weed, same diff) can help to create an extra layer of awesomeness to an already awesome adventure.

There you go.

Except my life isn't much of an "awesome adventure", more like a 3 AM rerun of Golden Girls, but you know.

 

[Erik]

neither is weed ... they say

Yeah, I dunno about weed. That's a different kind of drug in my (admittedly very unexperienced) eyes, and one I don't have a lot of interest in trying. It's mostly the psychedelic substances that are somehow intruiging to me

 

[lizard]

something might not be physically addictive, but could be psychologically.

 

[Erik]

everything can become addictive/habitual. be it picking your nose, choking it or doing a non-addictive drug. Some drugs just happen to cause a chemical dependency.

Yup, but something that alters you so fucking profoundly as Salvia is unlikely to become an addiction I would think... Drugs that people use as social devices, like weed and alcohol (even though at least alcohol can cause chemical dependencies as well) are much more likely to work that way..?