single rectifer vs. dual rectifier and other amps

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so I have a single rectifier that I never ever use because it sounds like ass.

I have heard fantastic clips from the dual rectifier - so it must be a shitload better? I'm thinking about selling the single and shelling out a bit to upgrade to the dual, then I might actually use it.
 
I'd definitely ditch it and go for a Dual or Triple; in fact, I'm honestly really craving a Triple for my next Recto purchase, seems like they have more punch than Duals (for tones like Decapitated's "The Negation" and of course "The Gathering"), likely owing to the increased headroom (and the fact that the power amp plays a much greater role in the tone of Rectifiers in modern mode compared with most other amps) - still love Duals as well though, never liked the Single all that much
 
MarcusGHedwig said:
I'd definitely ditch it and go for a Dual or Triple; in fact, I'm honestly really craving a Triple for my next Recto purchase, seems like they have more punch than Duals (for tones like Decapitated's "The Negation" and of course "The Gathering"), likely owing to the increased headroom (and the fact that the power amp plays a much greater role in the tone of Rectifiers in modern mode compared with most other amps) - still love Duals as well though, never liked the Single all that much
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I do believe some of the clips I was talking about were yours - the recto with the black face?

I have a 5150 which I obviously love but I like the rectifier tones I've heard around here as a different flavor - a bit tighter, different character. The mids seem to be in a different spot or something, lower maybe.
 
I owned a single rectifier for years and it was really cool. Hopefully I´m getting my Dual this week. Then I may be able to say if it really is THAT much better.
 
MarcusGHedwig said:
I'd definitely ditch it and go for a Dual or Triple; in fact, I'm honestly really craving a Triple for my next Recto purchase, seems like they have more punch than Duals (for tones like Decapitated's "The Negation" and of course "The Gathering"), likely owing to the increased headroom (and the fact that the power amp plays a much greater role in the tone of Rectifiers in modern mode compared with most other amps) - still love Duals as well though, never liked the Single all that much
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Totaly right:headbang:
 
wow that was fast. put my single rec on craigslist - already sold.

got $800, which is what I paid for it 4 years ago, so I'm a happy camper.

now - what to look for in dual recs? there's a dual channel and a triple channel - I think I've heard the dual channel is nicer? what else?

I'm also checking out the framus cobra, but I think it might be too much for my budget at the moment.
 
From the 5150/Rectifier comparison thread here: http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/...5150-ii-6505-rectifier-comparison-thread.html

The Two Channel Dual/Triple Rectifiers and Dual Rectifier Rackmount all have the same circuitry and sound so similar that you can dial them all in to have nearly 100% the same tone.

The Three Channel Dual/Triple Rectifiers sound exactly the same minus the amount of clean headroom, which may affect the response of the amp to sound slightly more "squishy." The circuitry is supposedly identical.

The Three Channel Dual/Triple Rectifiers are slightly brighter and more aggressive than their Two Channel counterparts. You can dial these amps in to sound almost exactly the same as the Two Channel versions. The biggest differences are noted in the Two Channel versions had transformer and slight circuit revisions in the early numbers.
 
[UEAK]Clowd;9006565 said:
I do believe some of the clips I was talking about were yours - the recto with the black face?
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Yup, that was mine, thanks dude! And congrats on the sale, I'd say you got a good price for it, and yeah, I'll agree with Trev, the differences between the 2 and 3 ch. models are subtle, but speaking generally, I'd say the 3 ch. models are brighter and more aggressive sounding, and the 2 ch. models are a bit smoother and more organic sounding, though as a result also (IMO) a bit sludgier, but not terribly so of course. Personally, I'm pretty much set on a 3 ch. Triple (for the brightness + punch) as my next purchase whenever I get the funds, but yeah, I'd go for whatever you can get a solid deal on, they all rule!

However, I am coming to believe there's more of a tonal difference between Duals and Triples than I used to think, probably because even though the only difference is output wattage, it makes a difference because the power amp plays such an integral role in the amp's tone (definitely the same preamps though)
 
And to elaborate on the power amp thing, with most amps, excess highs from the preamp signal (we all know how buzzy those are) are bled off by the power amp supplying negative feedback; however, in a Rectifier set to modern mode, the power amp doesn't supply negative feedback; rather, the pre-amp signal is filtered (probably low-passed), leading to the raw aggressiveness and punch the amps are so known for :headbang:
 
Well they've been the same since serial # ~RR03000 or so (Revision G, circa '95), but honestly, after Lasse's comparison, I kinda prefer the sound of the later ones anyway! Quickest way to tell which Revision it is is by looking to see how many knobs it has on the FX loop (pre-Revision G models only had a send knob as it was a series loop, Rev G's have the parallel loop with a send and mix knob)
 
the serial on this one is R-008671. looks like it has two knobs on the loop too.

I like the A clip in that thread better as well. I think I might pick this up - worst case I can just sell it, probably for a profit.
 
You shouldn't have anything to worry about man.

Even though there have been lots of rectifiers with subtle differences and whatever else, you really can't go wrong with any of them (dual or triple). They all sound amazing! It is obvious why they've been one of the most popular amps in the world...

Marcus...I thought you were deadset on a Roadster? I can understand what you mean about Triples though - we have played with a band that uses Triples (compared to our Duals) and I can hear the punch you're talking about. Granted, they play thrashy power metal without boosts (we're working on them ;) )and we play death metal, but you can definitely hear a difference in the overall character of the amp, even if only quite subtle.
 
Yeah, for awhile I was Dylan, as their darker quality compared to the standard Rectifiers appealed to me - however, I gotta say, when I got the guitars I had re-amped for my EP in the final mix, I realized that while on their own I had found them too bright, if I could go back I honestly would have bumped up the treble slightly for a bit more upper mids, where the definition really lives (it was this revelation that also prompted me to go back to running my EMG's at 9v); from all the clips I've heard, the 3 ch. Duals and Triples seem to have the most upper-mid focus, so that's become my new goal! (though I'm sure the Roadsters can still sound god-like, and I certainly still love the tone on "The Apostasy", but I've realized it's not really a tone I think would work that well for my music)
 
I recently came to a similar realisation man. I got myself a Hex 7 and haven't switched it to 18v yet like both of my Schecters. I've got it running at 9v still and I've actually bumped the treble up a bit on my recto (and even the mids a little) and it sounds absolutely INCREDIBLE!
 
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