starting with guitar - floydrose or not?

[xconnyx]

hi, i've been thinking to develop more musical skills by startin up with playing guitar, basically i can play a bit, but i dont own a guitar. so i am asking myself about buying a guitar with a floydrose tailpiece.

is it easyer to play a guitar without a floydrose, or do guitars with the strings through the body sound much better?!

thanks!

 

[xconnyx]

ok

 

[RemoWilliams]

Yeah, if your getting into playing guitar a floyd rose would be a bit of a hassle. Though, after you've played for a bit, you could upgrade to a standard tremolo, or a floyd rose or Kahler etc..

 

[Unavailable]

I'm not even a guitar player, and I would suggest avoiding floyd rose for a while. I've seen far too many frustrated guitar players because of it.

 

[Jaymz]

Floyds = Cunts

Only get one if you have a tech near to your location Ive spent a shit load on getting mine sorted! Still, my Jackson HAS to have one

 

[JeffTD]

Without!

Whenever I had a guitar with a floyd, I never progressed as much, cause I was too busy fucking with the whammy bar.

 

[IronApe]

I've been playing for quite some time (although that doesn't mean I'm good!), and I've owned a couple of guitars that had floyds: I used to think "hey, I can do dive bombs and super string stretches!" Then I realised that changing strings took me hours, and that I couldn't really set it properly myself. And that I didn't actually do ANY dive-bombs or stuff like that when I was playing properly, as I did when I was just playing around... Go for a string thru or a stop tailpiece, your nerves will thank you.

 

[kev]

I'd get one without first, then buy one with. If you're looking low budget to begin with anyway, DEFINITELY not. You cant get a guitar with a stable system for less than 500 quid really.

 

[Nebulous]

Without!

Whenever I had a guitar with a floyd, I never progressed as much, cause I was too busy fucking with the whammy bar.

That's pretty much it- will you use the whammy or not?
If you like your 80's rock/ metal and you wana play alot of stuff with it, then go for, it. Otherwise, there's no point in having it really.

 

[JBroll]

Learn without it, if you need one get one. They're a hassle if you don't have a lot of time and patience (which you should be spending on practice) and not necessary - or helpful - to your playing until you have the chops to hold your own without one. You should be able to solo without relying on a whammy (Kerry King, I'm looking at YOU!) or other toys, and if you're going to have it become a serious part of your sound you need to develop the rest of your ability or it'll just be awful.

Jeff

 

[Flat Fifth Fury]

I'd say for your first axe get a fixed tailpiece as they are cheaper and easier to maintain. Maybe for your second get one with a Floyd but only if you are going to be either a soloist or want to do vibrato on chords. All my guitars have Floyds except one which is my main rhythm tracking gtr. I like Floyds for their tuning stability and the ability to do chordal vibrato on clean parts as well as the funny stuff while soloing. But for you that's like needing a Ferrari to learn to drive.

 

[xconnyx]

the problem is i like to buy a esp ltd mh model in black

all the mh models under 400euros aren't black or they are black an come with a tremolo...

isn't there a chance to fix/freez the floyd rose licensed tremolo thing, so that it isnt flying/moving anymore?

and if i could freez the tremolo isnt this like playing a normal bridge?

 

[James Murphy]

a lot of subtle... and some not so subtle.... "manipulations" of floyds are a hallmark of my style.. one of the hallmarks anyway.. but i spent my first few years without using them much at all... even recorded my first album, Death's "Spiritual Healing", completely without a "bar"... before i started seriously digging into using them.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Floyds are the worse for beginners. Just get a wilkins or fuck it all together and get a fixed bridge.

 

[Jaymz]

a lot of subtle... and some not so subtle.... "manipulations" of floyds are a hallmark of my style.. one of the hallmarks anyway.. but i spent my first few years without using them much at all... even recorded my first album, Death's "Spiritual Healing", completely without a "bar"... before i started seriously digging into using them.

Yeah ive heard you using one often during harmonised solos, such as the Roadrunner one IIRC.

 

[KnifeVariable]

The Floyd is the sin of the 80s! Of the countless guitarists using the "bar" that I've heard so far I can name maybe 5 that used it in a (for my taste) remarkable and tasty way. I'd suggest that you get fixed bridge and once you're comfortable with the instrument get another guitar with a Floyd if you'll still be aching for one by then.

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

xconnyx, don't listen to these pussies -- you'll have a hell of a lot more fun with that FR. who cares if it can't stay in tune.

...you don't want to become like us guitarists anyway.

 

[whitedamp]

you lose sustain.

 

[felipe-x]

I'm not even a guitar player, and I would suggest avoiding floyd rose for a while. I've seen far too many frustrated guitar players because of it.

i am one of those!!!

i have another guitar with out the floyd... gosh



and please dont buy a ibanez guitar.. start with a ltd or something like that but not ibanez!

 

[kaomao]

I feel much tighter with floyd because my hand is lying on the body, while on a tonepros bridge like the one on my schecter c7 I'm not really that tight!
Oh I think floyds and fender-style bridges work really great for tight music eheheh
Most of death metal guy use floating bridge, Chuck used a fixed bridge and Daath guys as well