Demilich
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So if Hitler had formed a band and sang about flowers and puppies and rainbows it would have all been cool?
Suggest band ideas for HC 3
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I thought you were turning on me.
Demilich
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@Demilich -- I would love to see Drudkh live.
I have no idea how many racists listen to Drudkh. I have no clue who would show up. But metal promoters the world over completely disregard NS bands from their rosters, and I'm pretty sure it's because they want heavy metal fans showing up, not nazi fans.
"strepocoppulus"? Is that like strep throat?
I have no idea how many racists listen to Drudkh. I have no clue who would show up. But metal promoters the world over completely disregard NS bands from their rosters, and I'm pretty sure it's because they want heavy metal fans showing up, not nazi fans.
"strepocoppulus"? Is that like strep throat?
Reign in Acai
Of Elephant and Man
Krigloch the Furious
Pants full of poo
Yeah, again, I don't think that comes into promoters minds when deciding who to book. They themselves are NS or racist or whatever, they sell t-shirts that are racist, and some of their albums are released on an NS label. I don't think anyone gives them a "get out of jail free" card because their lyrics are about a tree.
o rly
Waaay too many crackers at metal shows for my liking anyway.
Thank god for New York City.
skeptik
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1) I don't give a shit about promoters and who they're seeking to bring in, NOR do I give a shit about their inaccurate and unfair tags on bands for no reasons other than association.
2) Rob Darken explicitly separates his music from his NS ideology and he's expressed this in NUMEROUS interviews. He doesn't even consider his music Black Metal either, because he wants to completely disengage from that scene.
Thing is, how is the tagging unfair or inaccurate? I've just laid out all the evidence for you. About 8 times now too.
You're lashing out as if I'm anti-Drudkh or something. That's not the case at all, but I'm at least being realistic. I'm also attempting to explain why festivals such as Wacken host hundreds of bands, but still no NS....you can stamp your feet all you want, but take it up with the promoters.
You see, the mistake you're making is that you're putting too many parameters on it. The fact is, Rob Darken is a nazi hence everything he does is nazi-like. I bet he even goose steps all the way to the synagogue.
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I'm sorry, but everything in this post is retarded and hardly worth responding to. I think I'm done here. All of the "evidence" you presented doesn't actually amount to shit in actually making a legitimate claim for them being NS, whether they are or not. Rob Darken is not a "Nazi" and to not only say that but to also say that "everything he does is nazi-like" is fucking laughable.
God damn, did somebody hack your account? Your arguments and rationale are completely bullshit for somebody that's actually intelligent.
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The fact behind it is, while GRAVELAND or DRUDKH may not explicitly support pro-white sentiments (despite my having read several lyrics where he does), buying DRUDKH albums and seeing their shows would still be directly supporting a pro-NS/racist group/person because the members behind it are pro-NS/racism.
Personally I'd say GRAVELAND are NSBM because of the pro-white power statement I've read in his lyrics and booklets (they're there). I suppose the question is where to draw the line, if the members being NS/racist is enough to qualify a black metal band as being NSBM.
Mind you, I don't really care. So long as band X churns out good music, I'm just ducky with the whole situation.
Personally I'd say GRAVELAND are NSBM because of the pro-white power statement I've read in his lyrics and booklets (they're there). I suppose the question is where to draw the line, if the members being NS/racist is enough to qualify a black metal band as being NSBM.
Mind you, I don't really care. So long as band X churns out good music, I'm just ducky with the whole situation.
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So what I'm wondering is:
Would these promoters refuse to book bands with pedophile lyrics? Isn't that at least as reprehensible as NS?
Would these promoters refuse to book bands with pedophile lyrics? Isn't that at least as reprehensible as NS?
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I'd say that pedophilia is "worse" than NS leanings, and a promoter who wouldn't book NS bands wouldn't book pedophile bands either. Mostly because I think pedophilia is much more objective than NS-ness.
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