Switching out EMGs
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JeffTD
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It's a super thin veneer, won't affect tone.
Erm, in my HR, I just loosened the strings a fuck ton to slide them out - tried that?
Aww retuning? But imma lazy...
Did you by chance find 2 rubber/spring things glued to the bottom of the 707s? That's how mine were sitting in there. I need like twice the height of the pickup to get it out because of those things.
Did you by chance find 2 rubber/spring things glued to the bottom of the 707s? That's how mine were sitting in there. I need like twice the height of the pickup to get it out because of those things.
JeffTD
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Ah shit yeah, I ended up just putting my own foam in the cavity and leaving it there. I'm lazy!
Rex Rocker
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Daniel
It's a super thin veneer, won't affect tone.
Last time Ermz and I had our guitars in the same room we were running through a 5150/ Recto cab and I seem to remember mine being brighter than his, more so than I was expecting it to. Mainly in the attack/ bite more than the overall tone though.
Wana chime in here Ermz? Was it just me who thought that it was a big enough difference?
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"Most likely, yeah. The fact that the actives are battery powered would suggest they pump harder. Also if you listen to Megadeth's old guitar sound you'll hear alot of scoop and balls, but not that much distortion.
I personally preffer passive pickups. I don't like what EMGs do to the sound of a guitar. It's sort of like handing a great mix to a generic mastering plant where they squash the shit out of it and put their stamp accross it. It sounds to me like the EMGs override the natural tonality of a guitar and replace it with gain, gain and more gain. Whilst this is acceptable for metal and I'm sure more than acceptable for shit guitars, I preffer to stick with the passives.
So yeah, I'd figure if you replace the 81 with the JB you'll probably need to pump the amp gain a bit to compensate"
Just doing a bored, random search, I found this post for you ages ago Ermz.
Interesting stuff.
Do you still prefer passives?
Did you keep using actives in your Hellraiser as to not need to fuck with pickup rings and all that shit to make passives not look like shit in an EMG sized routed guitar?
I've always been a passive guy personally, partly because I don't play balls the wall metal all the time, so the compressed nature of EMGs don't jive with me at all.
I would have like 18 volt modded EMGs in my Ibanez, but I wasn't going to fuck with the resale value of having the pickup routes made wider, nor can I find space to put 18 volts worth of batteries in the electronics cavity, so I just went with Blackouts instead, which IMO are even less compressed than 18 volt EMGs and meant I'd only need one battery. Quieter than EMGs on top of that, which is quite appealing.
It's weird, I like 6 string EMGs better than 6 string Blackouts, but I find the Blackouts in 7 string form are superior to the 707.
I personally preffer passive pickups. I don't like what EMGs do to the sound of a guitar. It's sort of like handing a great mix to a generic mastering plant where they squash the shit out of it and put their stamp accross it. It sounds to me like the EMGs override the natural tonality of a guitar and replace it with gain, gain and more gain. Whilst this is acceptable for metal and I'm sure more than acceptable for shit guitars, I preffer to stick with the passives.
So yeah, I'd figure if you replace the 81 with the JB you'll probably need to pump the amp gain a bit to compensate"
Just doing a bored, random search, I found this post for you ages ago Ermz.
Interesting stuff.
Do you still prefer passives?
Did you keep using actives in your Hellraiser as to not need to fuck with pickup rings and all that shit to make passives not look like shit in an EMG sized routed guitar?
I've always been a passive guy personally, partly because I don't play balls the wall metal all the time, so the compressed nature of EMGs don't jive with me at all.
I would have like 18 volt modded EMGs in my Ibanez, but I wasn't going to fuck with the resale value of having the pickup routes made wider, nor can I find space to put 18 volts worth of batteries in the electronics cavity, so I just went with Blackouts instead, which IMO are even less compressed than 18 volt EMGs and meant I'd only need one battery. Quieter than EMGs on top of that, which is quite appealing.
It's weird, I like 6 string EMGs better than 6 string Blackouts, but I find the Blackouts in 7 string form are superior to the 707.
I think that was me talking out of my ass, as we all inevitably do here at some point or another. I can bet at that point I had never even played a guitar with actives, nor compared how the two different types sit side by side on record. So to answer your question, no I don't prefer passives anymore. In the few years of downtime I also learned how to spell 'prefer' correctly to boot.
@Dan: I'd agree. There was definitely a difference between the two guitars. Whether or not it was the Maple top or not I can't say, but it would be the likely candidate.
@Dan: I'd agree. There was definitely a difference between the two guitars. Whether or not it was the Maple top or not I can't say, but it would be the likely candidate.
Nuno Filipe
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I did a quick reamp with no eq and sounds very good. Love the midrange.
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1457645/ever.wav
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1457645/ever.wav
Cheers for that! Good to hear it come up alright. The 81s really add a sort of bite to the high mids, but you lose a lot of the body that comes from the Mahogany, which really gets me. That's one thing I loved about the Hellraiser.
Anyway, I'm sure we'll do some good 707 and 81, maple top and no maple top shootouts at some point in the near future.
Anyway, I'm sure we'll do some good 707 and 81, maple top and no maple top shootouts at some point in the near future.
Nuno Filipe
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I dont have EMG and I also dont have experience with EMG but what I hear about them is that they arent much versatile and they dont have a great clean sound. Ofcourse this could be too subjective, it´s a matter of taste too.
But I have to tell you that your EMG have a great attack (specially with palm mute) because I used a preset that I have on your DI and I had to reduce the gain by half. But may not be only the pickup. What preamp and DI box did you use in this?
But I have to tell you that your EMG have a great attack (specially with palm mute) because I used a preset that I have on your DI and I had to reduce the gain by half. But may not be only the pickup. What preamp and DI box did you use in this?
Oh cool. What did you use to reamp the DIs if you don't mind me asking?
The DI was a Countryman Type 85 and the preamp was a Millennia Origin.
The DI was a Countryman Type 85 and the preamp was a Millennia Origin.
Nuno Filipe
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As I thought your DI box and the preamp are also very relevant for the sound that you have. Your DI box and preamp are quality stuff. I made the reamp with TS and 8505.
