SYMPHONY X NYC SHOW

[MetalAges]

I have changed your topic to just "SYMPHONY X NYC SHOW" since confirmed = being on the band's web site, which it is not. Clubs do this stuff all the time (announce before it is meant to be announced). Countless times it gets moved or canned altogether. So....

 

[Curufin]

You're such a party pooper, Deron.

 

[MetalAges]

I know, I knowwww...

 

[Dragongrrrl]

Hmmm. Think I might have to see about road-tripping for this...since NY isn't all that far away anymore

 

[3DimensionalAperture]

I have changed your topic to just "SYMPHONY X NYC SHOW" since confirmed = being on the band's web site, which it is not. Clubs do this stuff all the time (announce before it is meant to be announced). Countless times it gets moved or canned altogether. So....

Countless times? I don't think I've ever heard of a date officially announced on a venue site that got canned unless there are outside issues involved. These venues are putting in hundreds.. nay.. thousands of dollars into these shows, it's highly doubtful that they'd announce an unconfirmed show.

 

[mëtålspëd]

Hmmm. Think I might have to see about road-tripping for this...since NY isn't all that far away anymore

Let us know

 

[Petethedrummer]

Ugh chances are this conflicts with me studying abroad this summer :zombie:

 

[Matt Crooks]

I'm already going to NYC in March... maybe May as well!

 

[AngraRULES]

I'll be there. No questioning.

 

[Theandromedastrain]

I'm there without a breath of a doubt. Symphony X are my brothers in metal. Plus my favorite band.

And no there is no mistake in the godamn booking, i checked the BB Kings website, plus ticketmaster, both are confirmed with the date of May 25. The slow ones are the bands web managers, they take forever to post information.

This is gonna be one HELL of a show!!

 

[J-Dubya 777]

And no there is no mistake in the godamn booking, i checked the BB Kings website, plus ticketmaster, both are confirmed with the date of May 25. The slow ones are the bands web managers, they take forever to post information.

Did you ever stop & think that maybe the BANDS don't do the greatest job getting back to their "web managers" when it comes to shit like this?

You didn't, did you?

J-Dubya

 

[AMBR]

It's more like a lag between those involved in negotiating the dates and travel arrangements, the bands' managements and the venues. When the promoters and labels and/or management work to set up the dates, frequently the bands are out of the loop. Plans are often "tentative" but the venues can't resist releasing the info. early. Patience. When it really is confirmed, the band's will post it on their site.

 

[J-Dubya 777]

Exactly...

J-Dubya

 

[General Zod]

Tickets go on sale tomorrow. Would they sell tix to an unconfirmed event?

Zod

 

[Harvester]

Tickets go on sale tomorrow. Would they sell tix to an unconfirmed event?

Zod

It goes back to my story on how the touring aspect works in the Nightwish thread. As far as the club is concerned, this is a *confirmed* show . They confirmed with the booking agent, no one else. A busy venue such as BB King's isn't going to give you the date based on a "possiblity" or a "maybe." Symphony X's booking agent did his job and got them the date.

By not stating anything in public, this gives the band the opportunity to cancel the show if ncessary and not look bad to the public because they never "confirmed" the show. It's how politics work in the touring industry now with clubs going early with dates.

 

[Ascension]

It does cause some confusion when a venue pops a show like this. Apparently, the webpage/forum masters aren't as priviledged to the band as everyone may believe them to be.

 

[Harvester]

It does cause some confusion when a venue pops a show like this. Apparently, the webpage/forum masters aren't as priviledged to the band as everyone may believe them to be.

In many situations, the band themselves may not even be aware of the date booked or have agreed to the date yet, thus they will not confirm with their webmasters.

If a band wants to wait and book a date after they have everything set and ready to go, it's probably going to be too late to get a decent date. Thus, the booking agent and management get the job done early instead of not at all. As I mentioned previously, the band still has an out.

The venue, the booking agent, and the band have done nothing wrong but played by the rules the system dictates.

 

[Cheiron]

It goes back to my story on how the touring aspect works in the Nightwish thread. As far as the club is concerned, this is a *confirmed* show . They confirmed with the booking agent, no one else. A busy venue such as BB King's isn't going to give you the date based on a "possiblity" or a "maybe." Symphony X's booking agent did his job and got them the date.

By not stating anything in public, this gives the band the opportunity to cancel the show if ncessary and not look bad to the public because they never "confirmed" the show. It's how politics work in the touring industry now with clubs going early with dates.

I can really understand now why you prefer to work directly with bands instead of their booking agents.

 

[Harvester]

I can really understand now why you prefer to work directly with bands instead of their booking agents.

The reason I prefer to work directly with bands is not what you think. By speaking directly to bands, I'm able to establish a good relationship that allows both parties to work through potential problems in advance knowing that one party is doing their best to accomadate the other. I will always attempt to go the extra mile for those bands. 99% of all the problems that have arisen at the show between bands and myself are a result of poor communication from their booking agent/management to the band prior to the show in terms of expectations and availabilty. I end up having to pull a contract out to show that it's not my fault.

That said, the majority of the booking agents are great guys and I love working with them. I'm sure they have to put up with some shitty promoters so they have reasons to do as they do. Once I have established a working relationship with them, then I never have repeat problems.

 

[AMBR]

It goes back to my story on how the touring aspect works in the Nightwish thread. As far as the club is concerned, this is a *confirmed* show . They confirmed with the booking agent, no one else. A busy venue such as BB King's isn't going to give you the date based on a "possiblity" or a "maybe." Symphony X's booking agent did his job and got them the date.

By not stating anything in public, this gives the band the opportunity to cancel the show if ncessary and not look bad to the public because they never "confirmed" the show. It's how politics work in the touring industry now with clubs going early with dates.

Yea, just sucks that TM gets to sell the tickets in advance and still make about $10 /ticket for the "convenience fees" when the band backs out.