The 5 magnificent delusions regarding musical elitism

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all_sins_undone said:
from http://www.unconservatory.org/articles/goodmusic.html

1. It the piece technically well executed? Regardless of the style, the performance - whether improvised, derived from notation, or electroacoustically produced - should be free of extraneous notes, sounds, effects, nuances of any kind that do not contribute to communication of the musical ideas.

2. Does it exploit a variety of elements of music, i.e. rhythm, harmony, melody, texture/timbre? Although a quality piece of music need not have all elements equally represented (in fact, many if not most fine works do not), a piece that relies solely on any one element is likely to be less than fulfilling.

3. Are the elements of the work highly integrated so that each supports the other’s function? Melody, for example, cannot exist without at least some degree of rhythm; rhythm, however, can exist without melody, as can harmony without either rhythm or melody. But it seems that most truly satisfying music exploits the elements in ways that cause the product of them to be greater that the sum of the elements, disparately.

4. Does the piece appeal on a variety of levels – intellectual, emotional, spiritual? A piece can be strong enough in any one of these areas to justify being called good, but the best music somehow seems to appeal on many levels.

5. After having been listened to many times, does the piece still have appeal, appeal that is based on some new revelations rather than solely on comfortable familiarity? Complexity in and of itself is not especially valuable, but exceptional music seems to have many facets, and holds up well and continues to interest even after many listenings.

6. Is there a good balance between familiarity and variety, appropriate for the length of the piece? Clearly, very extended pieces will need to introduce more variety than very short ones; likewise the task of maintaining coherence within greater diversity is more difficult and expected in longer pieces.

im impressed dude. More solid posting like this and less retarded spam from you cheers!:rock:
 
Sadguru said:
I applaud your honesty. You did know that the projection exists as a neurotic mecanism?

actually it was a joke in reference to the previous page.


the point is i feel someone who TRULY beleives what you are saying and therefore couldnt possibly take ANY offense to things someone like myself would say, wouldnt feel compelled to make a thread and whine about this topic. so if you truly think im full of shit...then practice what you preach, and stfu about people telling you that you have poor taste...i dont see the point in whining otherwise.
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
actually it was a joke in reference to the previous page.


the point is i feel someone who TRULY beleives what you are saying and therefore couldnt possibly take ANY offense to things someone like myself would say, wouldnt feel compelled to make a thread and whine about this topic. so if you truly think im full of shit...then practice what you preach, and stfu about people telling you that you have poor taste...i dont see the point in whining otherwise.
Assuming again NFU? I don't get offended neither I whine about it. Between, I don't think you full of shit, just full of lies.
 
Sadguru said:
Assuming again NFU? I don't get offended neither I whine about it. Between, I don't think you full of shit, just full of lies.

not assuming. you bring this point up in about every other thread you post in. and for the record, what have i "lied" about?
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
not assuming. you bring this point up in about every other thread you post in. and for the record, what have i "lied" about?

You assumed I got offended and whinned about the whole issue.The question isn't "What I lied about", but "Who am I lying to?". But this time, I'm not going to answer this one. You can assume all you want about my motives, but it won't be revealed here.