The best gig you've ever been to?

He didnt leave on purpose.

Justice is not what I would call radio-friendly.

Do you play bass ?

Id rather say "he left" then say he died, and no I play guitar not bass. "One" is played all over the radio, video games, movies, etc so therefore it definitely is radio friendly.
 
I dont remember it being on the radio in the late 80s, the video was awesome though. Also dont blame Cliff for the hype surrounding him (I know its annoying), he was just a musical guy who was doing what he loved until it took his life.

Personally I would have loved to have been able to see him live with Metallica in their early days, and it definitely would be something worth mentioning in a topic such as this.
 
I dont remember it being on the radio in the late 80s, the video was awesome though. Also dont blame Cliff for the hype surrounding him (I know its annoying), he was just a musical guy who was doing what he loved until it took his life.

Personally I would have loved to have been able to see him live with Metallica in their early days, and it definitely would be something worth mentioning in a topic such as this.

Fair enough, I'm just tired of people saying Metallica sucks without Cliff, without him they would still be playing thrash, etc. Its all bullshit.
 
Fair enough, I'm just tired of people saying Metallica sucks without Cliff, without him they would still be playing thrash, etc. Its all bullshit.

Of course that's bullshit, but you know what's even more bullshit? Absolutely everything you just said before that. What's so special about it? Most overrated musician ever? The others play the exact same thing? THEY PLAY BETTER NOW??? Dude, seriously, shut the fuck up.
 
Of course that's bullshit, but you know what's even more bullshit? Absolutely everything you just said before that. What's so special about it? Most overrated musician ever? The others play the exact same thing? THEY PLAY BETTER NOW??? Dude, seriously, shut the fuck up.

Prove me wrong. James voice does suck now if that's what all of you mean.
 
I just get really bummed out sometimes (usually excess of testosterone) and I guess my anger flows through my posts.

Fixed ;)

Take a deep breath and chillax dude.

Back on topic:

At the Drive-In on their In/Casino/out tour. 98 or 99 I think...

Also Refused a bit before they disbanded.

Also Entombed in 94
 
Whats the big deal if you saw Metallica with Cliff? The other Metallica bassists play the same fucking thing when they play the older songs....
Bass is literally the smallest factor in how a band sounds live, or the least important, don't believe me? Go check out all the fuckers who don't even record bass and just use pitchshifted guitar, how is a Jimi Hendrix tribute even REMOTELY fucking close to having a different bassist in otherwise the exact same fucking band? I can fucking assure you Metallica plays 10x better then they did back in the day, they even mess up on their first album. Unless your shoving your face in Metallica's bassists cab you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between Master Of Puppets being played in 1986 and 1987/8.
And just saying, Cliff Burton is the most overrated metal musician in fucking history, seriously. What in the flying fuck has he done that is so fucking great? Metallica didn't change because he left they changed because for them music was about making money so they took the easy route and made simple radio friendly metal songs for probably the first time in history.
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You need to get James Hetfield's dick out of your ass. I turn 17 in 2 months but thanks for the brilliant advice.

It all makes sense now.

You need a new hobby beyond spewing your ill-informed opinions on the internet. Go put your dick in something, you sound like you're backed up to your brains.
 
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It all makes sense now.

You need a new hobby beyond spewing your ill-informed opinions on the internet. Go put your dick in something, you sound like you're backed up to your brains.

I almost never share opinions like in this thread, usually I only post about music and recommendations, I have a GF sorta, its complicated.

And for the guy above you who said "take a breath" ATM i'm not angry or even have energy, i'm tired as fuck, a bit depressed because I have no weed to smoke, and bummed out about stuff that happened in my family that pretty much directly effects me.

I actually have the opposite of ADHD/ADD, instead of being to overly active i'm always tired and have unusual sleeping habits, sometimes I feel fine and then I feel like complete shit and don't want to do anything. I'm sure the fact I get high everyday (or at least use to) on pretty much anything, weed, acid, pills, liquor, shrooms, etc has something to do with it as I was never like this when I was younger. If your response to this is going to be "hahahaha poser faggot trying to get attention!" so be it.
 
Bass is literally the smallest factor in how a band sounds live, or the least important,.... Unless your shoving your face in Metallica's bassists cab you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between Master Of Puppets being played in 1986 and 1987/8.

And just saying, Cliff Burton is the most overrated metal musician in fucking history



You just made the list...
 
Amarshism's band (thy art) are the most accurate live representation of an album i've ever seen. full throttle whole way through the set too!
 
Not to derail, but what record would you suggest as an introduction to Kings X? Ive heard people rave about this band back in the day and I never did get to checking them out proper.

Get "Gretchen Goes To Nebraska" and "Dogman". I think of all their albums, those two are must-owns. Musically, GGTN is more varied, but the production on Dogman is near-perfect IMHO.
 
Perhaps it is age, but if you really think band members are simply interchangeable parts and it matters not who is in any given band at any given time, then you really just don't understand yet why some bands lineups are considered classic time periods for that band. I could go on forever about how certain periods of a bands existances are better simply because of the members in them and how even one member on bass makes the band what they are. I don't have to go deeper than mentioning Steve Harris of Iron Maiden.

I readily admit that because of your age and the opinions displayed in this thread so far that I don't know if you to even like Iron Maiden or give them their due for the massive influence on almost all the music you probably listen to, but I suspect the majority here can't imagine Iron Maiden without Steve Harris on bass. We unfortunately got to experience them without Bruce on vocals and Adrian on guitar for a few albums that proved quite conclusively they are better with them in the fold.

Metallica was good with Jason on bass - like I said in my post on the 86 show, it was my favorite Metallica show ever and I saw them on 4 of the first 5 tours in support of Ride The Lightning through the Black album. 85, 86, 89, 92 - for my money the 86 and 89 shows were simply better shows, not for historical reasons, just I enjoyed them more. With that said, seeing Cliff Burton in 85 is still a special memory in that hind sight is 20/20 type view of things. When I saw them in 85 I just assumed this was going to be the lineup for as long as they would be around. When Puppets dropped and at the time it became a bit of an obsession of mine, I thought I'd be going to see Cliff with them when they came around. Less than two months before that show in 86 he was killed in that horrible bus accident in Sweden and being completely honest I went to that show thinking it could not surpass seeing them the year before with Cliff, but Jason played like a man possessed at that 86 show, he was doing his damnedest to fill the big shoes left by Cliff's death and perhaps that's what made that show so memorable. Cliff's absence was palpable, like something solid hanging over the show - it drove the band, it definitely contributed to the energy and the emotion of the show that night.

Certain band lineups are true classics either for the music they created, the time period and influence they had, or possibly for the stage show they put on. I could go on and on about certain bands that might have still be OK without certain members, but never as good as when those certain members are/were involved. Priest without Halford? Sucked! Black Sabbath without Geezer? While I enjoy parts of the Tony Martin era of Eternal Idol, Cross Purposes, Tyr, where Geezer was not involved on bass - Black Sabbath is better when Geezer is in the fold.

Another example - Slayer without Dave Lombardo is just not as good as Slayer with Dave on the drums. Paul Bostaph is a great drummer in his own right, but when I think Slayer, I think of Dave on drums.

I can't imagine thinking that it's not the people on stage that make a show great and they are all just interchangeable parts that if one goes down, no biggie.
 
Not to derail, but what record would you suggest as an introduction to Kings X? Ive heard people rave about this band back in the day and I never did get to checking them out proper.

Kings X is one of those bands many overlook because they were in many ways a sort of throw back to the power trio format of previous decades when many bands, especially in metal and rock, had gone the dual guitar route. They also mixed so many genres that it was almost impossible to label them as any particular type of band. They were progressive at times, funk mixed with rock, metal mixed with grunge at times, ... hard to define indeed. They continued that fine trio format popular in the 70's with bands like Rush, Triumph, Cream, Hendrix Experience, ... all experimental in their own ways, all extremely talented musicians which in many cases power trios had to be.

As already mentioned Gretchen Goes To Nebraska is a good place to start, Out of the Silent Planet (their first disc is also good), Dogman is also a good record.

All three, Ty Tabor (guitar), dUg (Doug) Pinnick, and Gerry Gaskill are all great musicians and have remained in King's X since it's formation as a trio in 83.