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CiG said:
That was low and weirdly scummy of you, I'm done with this conversation.
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hold on, you implied i haven't raised kids(not sure what would make you come to that conclusion since i never talk about my personal life on this forum), but me implying that you haven't raised any kids is scummy? You dont see the hypocrisy here? So you think im saying that people who are separated and the mom raises the kid are bad people? Wtf, youre acting like i called you a deadbeat dad or something. If you think i did then you equally did the same thing with me. But thats not the case since that's not what i fucking said. but whatever man, i couldn't give any less of a shit what some dude who would turn in his own kids to the cops thinks.

edit: and fuck you too @Terasophe
 
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HamburgerBoy said:
Weird shit right now: Bannon and some Chinese billionaire fugitive are livestreaming their declaration of a new Chinese state. Feels like a schizo larp but
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They're playing a fucking power ballad federalist national anthem, guitar solo and all, this timeline is so fucking weird

 
CiG said:
Who cares anyway, they still ignored the guy saying he couldn't breath. On drugs or not, they let him die without making any adjustments for his safety whatsoever.
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I agree 100%, but he likely wasn't even about to die. You're virtally unconscious before you die by fentanyl; it shuts everything down, and the last to go are the lungs.

I just don't understand why it was brought up at all. If we agree the cop acted unjustly and should be charged, then what's the point of introducing evidence of Floyd being high except to somehow make the officer less at fault? I don't understand the intent, is all (I know you didn't post it, I'm just saying).

HamburgerBoy said:
Except for the part where he was shown to be barely able to walk long before the knee
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You've never enjoyed a good stumble while intoxicated? Doesn't mean you're closer to death's door.


EDIT: Well, who's really surprised?

https://www.businessinsider.com/white-nationalist-identity-evropa-twitter-antifa-looting-2020-6

A Twitter account that claimed to represent a national antifa organization and that urged protesters to loot "white" neighborhoods was actually run by white nationalist group Identity Evropa, according to a Twitter spokesperson.

The account, which posted under the handle "@ANTIFA_US," falsely aligned itself with ongoing Black Lives Matter protests nationwide. One tweet that called for protesters to "move into residential areas" and "take what's ours" was retweeted hundreds of times as of Sunday night.
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For what it's worth, I'm sure that ANTIFA affiliates co-opt Twitter accounts as well.
 
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TechnicalBarbarity said:
they probably are. But are you implying that getting your own kids busted(which was not the case here btw) is in any way respectable?
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Guess this explains why you never represented this country or Armenia. A citizen has to stand for something higher than their family's self preservation and this belief is rooted in a lot of issues present with our country today. Shame.

And you definitely implied cig.is a deadbeat and you can't be mad since you "never talk about family". Hope you don't have kids with all the fucking time you spend on here and watching shitty movies:lol:
 
rms said:
Guess this explains why you never represented this country or Armenia. A citizen has to stand for something higher than their family's self preservation and this belief is rooted in a lot of issues present with our country today. Shame.
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Bahahhahahhahhaa. Another person who's never raised a child is exposed. You guys are hilarious.

:rofl:

rms said:
And you definitely implied cig.is a deadbeat and you can't be mad since you "never talk about family".
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no, what i did is imply that he's never raised a kid. not mad at all. I'd have no problem calling anyone of you guys a deadbeat if that was the case. And just to be clear, someone who would rat on their own kids and put them in jail instead of trying to help them is far worse than a deadbeat so yeah. :thumbsup:

rms said:
Hope you don't have kids with all the fucking time you spend on here and watching shitty movies:lol:
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Einherjar86 said:
I agree 100%, but he likely wasn't even about to die. You're virtally unconscious before you die by fentanyl; it shuts everything down, and the last to go are the lungs.

I just don't understand why it was brought up at all. If we agree the cop acted unjustly and should be charged, then what's the point of introducing evidence of Floyd being high except to somehow make the officer less at fault? I don't understand the intent, is all (I know you didn't post it, I'm just saying).

You've never enjoyed a good stumble while intoxicated? Doesn't mean you're closer to death's door.
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What's your source that "the last to go are the lungs", and how is that relevant? The question is what was the first thing to go, and the evidence so far points towards his heart, having a history of heart disease and lethal levels of the most lethal common drug in his blood.

You're comparing being drunk to having a lethal dose of fentanyl? :lol:

EDIT: And the reason is that it makes a massive difference in a murder case. If he was overdosing and dying, that makes their crime more akin to negligent manslaughter, holding down a guy in a non-dangerous way, failing to recognize that he was dying due to other reasons.
 
TechnicalBarbarity said:
how many chokeholds have you seen where a cop is kneeling down on the back of someones neck? What you saw in that video is not what they are trained to do, since you know ... its pretty damn dangerous. And you dont need to die for it to be considered dangerous you dumbass.
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Just in the riots there have been multiple cases. MPD explicitly said they are going to stop using those chokeholds after they had previously trained cops in their use. The cop *could* have been using it dangerously but there are plenty of other possibilities at play. It's only black and white if you've been watching too much television or Twitter.
 
HamburgerBoy said:
Just in the riots there have been multiple cases.
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I saw it used only once and the other officer was quick to lift and push away the leg of the cop that was doing it. Btw, having a leg on someones back is not the same as having a leg on their throat.

HamburgerBoy said:
MPD explicitly said they are going to stop using those chokeholds after they had previously trained cops in their use. The cop *could* have been using it dangerously but there are plenty of other possibilities at play.
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numerous cops and police stations have already came out and said kneeling on someone neck is not what they're trained to do. But maybe the MPD did, do you have a link of an article where they say that "chokehold" is something they're trained to do?

HamburgerBoy said:
It's only black and white if you've been watching too much television or Twitter.
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Lulz. this is gold coming from you.
 
TechnicalBarbarity said:
I saw it used only once and the other officer was quick to lift and push away the leg of the cop that was doing it. Btw, having a leg on someones back is not the same as having a leg on their throat.

numerous cops and police stations have already came out and said kneeling on someone neck is not what they're trained to do. But maybe the MPD did, do you have a link of an article where they say that "chokehold" is something they're trained to do?

Lulz. this is gold coming from you.
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And the knee was pushed away because of optical reasons, screaming protesters crying that a second Saint Floyd was occurring. Didn't you just say that every cop involved deserved to be hung?

5-311 USE OF NECK RESTRAINTS AND CHOKE HOLDS (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (10/01/10) (04/16/12)

DEFINITIONS I.

Choke Hold: Deadly force option. Defined as applying direct pressure on a person’s trachea or airway (front of the neck), blocking or obstructing the airway (04/16/12)

Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)
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https://sites.law.duke.edu/csj-blog/2020/05/31/use-of-force-policy-in-minneapolis/

Try again poser.
 
rms said:
you have a very narrow definition of "help" and somehow don't recognize that some things are out of parents control. Too old to not know this truth
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yeah you got it bud. You seem to have a lot of experience with kids. Parents are the first person who try to help they're kid when they get popped or busted. Not the first person to call the cops on them. The fact that you need me to explain this is amazing.

Whats even funnier is now Mr. "who cares about countriezzz" is all "forget about preserving da family. MUH COUNTRYYY" :lol: lame fuck. Last thing i need is 30 year olds who have probably flushed away more kids than turds telling me about family. You probably live your life under your wifes skirt.

And just to reiterate my stance on ratting. I wouldnt snitch on anyone, let alone my child. Dont really give a fuck how you want to look at that. If the problem bothers me enough i'll take care of it myself. I dont need to call other men to come take care of it for me
 
HamburgerBoy said:
What's your source that "the last to go are the lungs", and how is that relevant? The question is what was the first thing to go, and the evidence so far points towards his heart, having a history of heart disease and lethal levels of the most lethal common drug in his blood.

You're comparing being drunk to having a lethal dose of fentanyl? :lol:
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No, I'm comparing being drunk to being under the influence of fentanyl. You implied that him staggering around meant he had a lethal dose; I'm saying you can be wobbly as fuck and not be in danger of overdosing--hence the alcohol comment.

You can't determine lethality postmortem. You have to view the amount while alive in relation to someone's behavior. Floyd didn't exhibit the symptoms/behaviors of a fentanyl overdose, according to medical experts.

HamburgerBoy said:
EDIT: And the reason is that it makes a massive difference in a murder case. If he was overdosing and dying, that makes their crime more akin to negligent manslaughter, holding down a guy in a non-dangerous way, failing to recognize that he was dying due to other reasons.
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Let's entertain your baseless assumption that kneeling on someone's chest is "non-dangerous" and that Floyd was already dying. Unfortunately, there's no way to verify that because the murderer felt no reason to respond to Floyd's cries that he couldn't breathe. The evidence we have shows a cop murdering an unarmed person.

Get out of here with this bullshit.

HamburgerBoy said:
And the knee was pushed away because of optical reasons, screaming protesters crying that a second Saint Floyd was occurring. Didn't you just say that every cop involved deserved to be hung?



https://sites.law.duke.edu/csj-blog/2020/05/31/use-of-force-policy-in-minneapolis/

Try again poser.
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"without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck)"
 
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