The only thing worse than bonus tracks:

[Nico]

The bonus tracks on both Orchid and Morningrise are annoying as fuck. Intro the Frost of Winter on Orchid just blows apart the feeling of The Apostle in Triumph, which happens to be my favorite Opeth song.

But yeah, on My Arms, Your Hearse, the tracks are good, but putting them at the end of a concept album is pretty dumb... they would've been better on a reissue of Morningrise.

 

[Demonspell]

I wouldn't be too sure about that, since To Bid You Farewell has that great ending, all of the first three Opeth albums end on a high note (after that, Blackwater Park is the only really inspired conclusion) that should not be compromised.

 

[J.]

Yeah, if Opeth were to release the song "Blackwater Park" as a single or an EP or something, I'd buy it. THat song is great, and the only worthwhile song on the album.

 

[NAD]

I'll tell you what's worse than bonus tracks - these fucking "tribute" CDs. I saw one the other day for The Darkness! I mean, I think the Darkness are entertaining, but THEY'VE GOT ONE FUCKING ALBUM, FOR GOD'S SAKE.

Holy unclefuck that's pretty bad. Talk about trying to ride some coattails.

There's String Quartet Tribute To....CDs, Pickin' On....Tribute CDs, its just plain getting out of hand. I think its a way for out of work has been musicians to earn a Big Mac or something.

I have this string quartet tribute of a bunch of Tool songs and it rules. They change some of the arrangements and imitate the vocals with a violin, really creative stuff even if it is all cover songs.

 

[En Vind Av Sorg]

Ohh yea, tributes are becoming way out of hand. Go to some place like a Sam and look at their "best new artist" section or whatnot. Then go to the tribute section. What.the.fuck. Multiple tributes to bands ive never even heard, that have maybe 2 albums at max. Uerghh.

 

[lizard]

I will say I own a Thin Lizzy tribute album because I'm a total Lizzy fan, the other week my brother sent me some Irish postal stamps with Phil Lynott on them! totally cool.

 

[NAD]

I never bought the Darkness CD, but I KNOW I'm gonna buy the tribute!

 

[[0hr]Sunlapse]

or how about those "Maximum" biographies.... i'm sure they all ready have a "Maximum The Darkness" cd...., and when they release their 2nd cd they are probably gonna come out with "More Maximum The Darkness", and yet even more after that

 

[unhinged]

back to fear factory
I only have the normal demanufacture but I bought the digipack of obsolite
the bonus tracks on that are the only decent thing about it!

but its true that bonus tracks can be out of place
thats why on headworm we made the godworm remix a hidden track with a minutes silence before it, maybe should have made the slience longer
but the point was the album would be seen to be finished when the acoustic guitar ends
if we had have stuck the extra bit straight on it would have killed that mood
I don't think a lot of these labels care enough about the album as a 'whole'
to consider much about it.
it's like putting comic skits on the credits at the end of the elephant man or something, jusy out of place

 

[J.]

The bonus track on Headworm is fine by me. It didn't detract from the actual album, because like you said, there are a few minutes before it begins. WHen bands do that, it works.

As far as Fear Factory, I have the non-bonus track albums of both Obsolete (c'mon Paul, this album rules!) and Demanufacture. I have heard the bonus tracks, though, and I didn't really like 'em.

I do however, have the bonus track edition of Digimortal, but I actually like 4 out of the 5 bonus tracks, so it's cool.

And it should be said that the cover of that Nirvana song tacked on at the end of Archetype completely ruins the ending of that album. A fucking horrible cover of a fucking horrible song of a fucking horrible band from a fucking horrible scene.

 

[NAD]

thats why on headworm we made the godworm remix a hidden track with a minutes silence before it, maybe should have made the slience longer but the point was the album would be seen to be finished when the acoustic guitar ends

Yep, and it works. All I want is a few moments of silence before extra material so I have time to say "ahhh, good album." Worst offender I've seen is Katatonia - Brave Murder Day. The bonus track starts literally 1/4 of a second after the final track cuts off. Totally kills it.

Fear Factory: Obsolete kicks so much ass it's unbelievable. Well, it is believable because I've listened to it 380io41klwr98024io times. I had the original version of that but some idiot friend of mine scratched the living SHIT out of it so I bought the boner track version. Those songs were junk. Demanufacture boner tracks are junk. The Digimortal boner tracks, those were actually pretty good.

School was a motherfucking badass song by a motherfucking badass band and Fear Factory's cover of it is motherfucking badass.

 

[Under a Stone]

I pretty much enjoy Fear Factory's discography(save for Digimortal).

 

[J.]

School was a motherfucking badass song by a motherfucking badass band and Fear Factory's cover of it is motherfucking badass.

It just sounds below Fear Factory. I mean c'mon, this is a band obsessed with man vs. machine, and at the end of a great FF album, complete with their classic "slow" song to close the album out, I have to hear them singing about how much high school sucks?

I wouldn't have minded so much if it was released on a bonus edition, or even added after those ambient sounds were done with for a few minutes.

Nirvana still blow, and they always have.

 

[J.]

I pretty much enjoy Fear Factory's discography(save for Digimortal).

hehe, I think NAD and I are the only ones who think Digimortal is a pretty decent album. eople give this album a hard time because of "Back da Fuck Up", which I agree, is just atrocious (kinda like FF's cover of "School").

Still, I like a bunch of songs from this album, and the title track has one of FF's best choruses IMO. And I still say Digimortal features some of Burton's best clean vocal work.

Soul of a New Machine and Fear is the Mindkiller are garbage.

Haven't heard Concrete.

 

[NAD]

Other than Linch Pin and Shutdafuckup Digimortal was pretty good. Yeah, J. and my one friend are the only kind words spoken toward that album.

Just checked allmusic.com, they give Digimortal 4-stars and a positive review, when it was first released they gave it 2-stars and a shit review. TURNCOATS!!!

Concrete is late 80s raw death metal. I only listened to it once so I guess I didn't like it, and my CD-R was unlabelled so it's probably lost forever by now.

 

[Under a Stone]

Digimortal does have some decent tracks(such as 'No One' and 'Acres Of Skin') and yes the bonus tracks are quite good.

 

[unhinged]

ok so there is some good stuff on obsolite, edgecrusher is pretty much thier 'walk' in terms of big heavy and catchy
but 0-0 where evil dwells is a class cover
maybe I'll give it a spin tomorrow, its been a while
swapped a crap death metal album for concrete the other day
only played it once, its ok, just like demos of the first album
I wouldn't have payed actual money for it

I was going to get the new one for my birthday, but the shop was sold out + I got two bargain pink floyd albums instead.
so this has reminded me to check that out

I thought digimortal was fucking terrible
it was forced and bland
like the burning red for machine head...only a couple of really good tracks, the rest sucked balls

and after redescovering burn my eyes over the last few weeks...i reckon I'll stick with that

 

[NAD]

like the burning red for machine head...only a couple of really good tracks, the rest sucked balls

I'll agree with that.

And what's this, are you listening to something with Jarboe and King Crimson???

 

[unhinged]

haha, just diferent albums that I've just played
k.c. red just before jarboe human remains while walking the dog before that, just listening to the last steve von till album now, its late, doing some artwork...the familys asleep, drinking... dreadingthe school run in the morning

 

[Demonspell]

NAD: While that does ruin continuity and therefore sucks, I can't really complain because Funeral Wedding is fucking awesome...that is the version you have, right?