The pics thread

zabu of nΩd;10073478 said:
Well a big problem i have is getting into debates with people and being really convinced about how right i am when i'm really just talking out my ass half the time.

Well that's some personal ego problem you need to get over. And maybe you personally shouldn't be posting on the internet arguing with people if that's a problem. Just do some stream of consciousness writing while you're high and analyze it later on when you're sober.

The whole purpose of achieving a mental state of altered consciousness is to analyze one's self and try to gain different perspectives on everything. Getting high or drunk just to get high or drunk is ok, but I think it's a bit odd. However, if you realize something about yourself when you're in an altered state of mind like you previously pointed out, that gives you something to work on personally and to try and overcome and to become a better you. Get your mind in the right state. All you're doing is identifying personality flaws and harping on the negativeness of them when you should be using it and try to become a more positive and enlightened human being.
 
Agreed. I personally think weed is a wonderful drug. It has the ability to resurface things I haven't thought about in years, and causes me to put together ideas and realizations I wouldn't have thought of otherwise. When I'm by myself and have time to think, it's like smokeable epiphany in plant form. However, that only really seems to apply if I don't do it frequently.
 
I've concluded that weed has done nothing positive academically for me, as I hoped. Rather than gaining new insights, it causes me to view the insights I would normally have as more novel and profound than they are, as if I'm constantly reminding myself of the obvious. And even if it does make me think differently, I never get to the point of putting those insights into writing or anything that makes them effective.

What it has done for me positively is that I have been so much calmer as of late than I used to be. I hardly ever have anxiety these days. I'm so much more chill, and thankful for that.
 
It's different for different people. I have a friend who becomes a total dipshit whenever he gets high, even when he's alone (as evidenced by shit he sends to me on Facebook).

I find music far more immersive when I'm high. I can keep track of all of the melodies going, and time seems to slow down so I can analyze them and the lyrics. When I'm really high, the song seems to be all of reality, and I visualize things clearly. They tend to be full pictures that go with the music rather than the colors and textures I normally visualize sober.
 
Well that's some personal ego problem you need to get over. And maybe you personally shouldn't be posting on the internet arguing with people if that's a problem. Just do some stream of consciousness writing while you're high and analyze it later on when you're sober.

The whole purpose of achieving a mental state of altered consciousness is to analyze one's self and try to gain different perspectives on everything. Getting high or drunk just to get high or drunk is ok, but I think it's a bit odd. However, if you realize something about yourself when you're in an altered state of mind like you previously pointed out, that gives you something to work on personally and to try and overcome and to become a better you. Get your mind in the right state. All you're doing is identifying personality flaws and harping on the negativeness of them when you should be using it and try to become a more positive and enlightened human being.
I would be happy to move on to a better state of personhood (one that likely would entail more overall sobriety), but I really, seriously have difficulty coping with my job. It regularly makes me feel like shit, and i need to quit it.

I've concluded that weed has done nothing positive academically for me, as I hoped. Rather than gaining new insights, it causes me to view the insights I would normally have as more novel and profound than they are, as if I'm constantly reminding myself of the obvious. And even if it does make me think differently, I never get to the point of putting those insights into writing or anything that makes them effective.

What it has done for me positively is that I have been so much calmer as of late than I used to be. I hardly ever have anxiety these days. I'm so much more chill, and thankful for that.
I know the 'reminding myself of the obvious' feeling. As far as anxiety, i agree that it is good at alleviating that, but there are some types of anxiety that, in my case at least, probably can't be cured without some sort of lifestyle change.
 
When I'm high, I don't become a philosopher, rather an animal that just ends up eating a bunch of food and indulging in whatever. Yes, music becomes more awesome to listen to because of the increased clarity of perception, but I suppose I have to refine my ability to apply that clarity to, say, reading Plato in Greek.
 
I've had almost no success "refining" this clarity you speak of, and i don't really consider it possible in my case.
 
When I'm high, I don't become a philosopher, rather an animal that just ends up eating a bunch of food and indulging in whatever. Yes, music becomes more awesome to listen to because of the increased clarity of perception, but I suppose I have to refine my ability to apply that clarity to, say, reading Plato in Greek.

I dont use any drugs, not even much alcohol these days, but I can definately confirm this remark in regards to my friends who like to smoke. What they say about it and the way they act when they are high correlates 100% with the statement above.

Perhaps they feel like philosophers while high but me as an outsider (who has studied philosophy as well) knows its just juvenile thoughts that doesnt make sense. And when my friends arent high they usually admit to this as well.
 
As I said I'm not condemning it, because it's done me good. I just wish I got something more from it.

There's two reasons for this:

1) The weed you're getting is shit, which is probably very likely.

2) You personally don't garner the same effects from weed that a lot of other people do, which is not unheard of. In which case I recommend mushrooms.
 
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