The Place to bitch about music I like that you don't

[Master_Yoda77]

I meant you want The Butt you queer.

I'm leaving this worthless thread.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

*tips fedora*

EDIT: No, I don't want my assbabies to inherit anything from The Butt.

 

[Trodden]

Shit man! first time Ive come across bands on here that I hadnt heard before. Both are damn good!

definitely going to look for all I can on Dreadnot

does Absolute Zero have much music online? I might have to use What.cd to get all of there stuff. Thanks for the new music! Keep that shit coming

 

[Trodden]

I'm leaving this worthless thread.

I miss him already

 

[Trodden]

@Trodden: I listen to music if it has depth and provokes intelligent thought (ie: if I laugh at it for being dumb or awkward, that is bad). If it doesn't, I discard it.

Those are the only qualifiers.

thats cool. I was only trying to introduce bands some people may not have heard of. too bad none I posted sounded good to you

hopefully one band I post sometime will

 

[The Butt]

*tips fedora*

EDIT: No, I don't want my assbabies to inherit anything from The Butt.

You complain about me being "edgy" but you are the king of edge. You should just call yourself "The Edge" and subsequently goad that shitty guitar player from U2 into suing you or something. And in your defense plea you need to make sure to make numerous references to black metal.

 

[Trodden]

how about Symphonic Black Metal?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You can download all the Dreadnot stuff from their Facebook. Here's that one demo:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=247285218631778&id=307645701316

Absolute Zero has a demo comp (just a cheap CD-R deal with a couple paper inserts) for $7 on the singer's website. Not sure if their 1989 demo material has been ripped from it and put online, but I don't like pirating things that are technically in print so I can't do anything if it isn't already available on what.cd. An older cassette rip of their 1987 demo, Piracy, can probably be found on a blog or metal demo forum though.

 

[Trodden]

thanks man, Im gonna grab Dreadnot before crashing

Im digging them

I do want to hear more from Absolute Zero. Im listening to the new 'Gloria Morti' album now

 

[Trodden]

no guitars or drums, but this shit sounds Metal to me. Dont judge it before listening to a few minutes of it. When the kids come in that shit sounds evil as hell

 

[CiG]

 

[Satanstoenail]

Category: Meshuggah clone

 

[Omni]

no guitars or drums, but this shit sounds Metal to me. Dont judge it before listening to a few minutes of it. When the kids come in that shit sounds evil as hell

Listen to Yat-Kha, a punky/folky rock group with this style of singing.

 

[EternalMetal]

What about Meshuggah? I reject all that 'djent' shit, that's not even a genre.

It falls into the massive umbrella that is progressive metal (the same with most of the stuff in this thread as well). Some djent stuff actually sounds more like metalcore than prog metal, or even industrial metal, so I guess you can throw it into either genre based on it's musical inclinations if you want. Though I kind of feel like djent stuff has a specific enough sound and a large enough grouping of bands to warrant classifying it independently, hence the convenient label that it has been given. Im not sure I understand the backlash of new genre labels. At one point in time heavy metal, death metal, black metal, etc became new genres, so why wouldnt modern music be subjected to the same sort of classification? I find it amusing and slightly annoying that people like to reject genre labels of music that they dont enjoy. It's not like I feel like every band who creates something different should have their own genre tag, but when a community or group arises over a particular sound and musical style, I think it is appropriate and convenient to classify it accordingly. Djent, for better or worse, is one of these cases, making Meshuggah quite easy to classify.

I guess it also complicates things when bands that play a specific style of music reject their community-derived genre labels. Even Ozzy has denied that Black Sabbath were heavy metal, which in modern times sounds like a rather anachronistic view of the metal scene. Genres are created today just as they were 20-30 years ago. The labels are almost as much of a name for a community-defined movement within music as they are a description of musical traits.

I know I went a little off topic, but considering the majority of this thread was basically just people railing Trodden for his poor taste in metal, I felt like this was relevant enough subject material for the thread.

 

[Omni]

I don't think that Ozzy Osbourne has much say in the style of music that Black Sabbath is, given that he was the least involved in the actual musical process out of the original lineup. I'd be more intetested in listening to Tony Iommi.

 

[EternalMetal]

Well the point of that link was to show that ever since the creation of metal, artists themselves have been resistant to their associated labels. It's quite laughable to deny Ozzy's opinion of his own band just because he is a vocalist. He may not have an instrumental role in the band, but he is a music artist who deserves to have opinions on music. I think it is clear that everybody disagrees with him, but he has far more of an involvement with Sabbath than basically anybody else with an opinion on heavy metal.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

lol, the above just reminded me of an argument by Vic from the Metal-Rules several years ago, basically Vic was saying After Forever was so obviously an anti-Christian song and that all the stupid unenlightened religious folk were distorting things to their own means, and when someone produced a quote where Butler said it was supposed to be a Christian song and that some of them were Christian, Vic was all "WHO CARES IF IT WASN'T IOMMI IT DOESN'T MATTER".

 

[Omni]

Weirdly enough, Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler, the two people primarily behind the musical element of Black Sabbath (the reason why they are called heavy metal, not because of vocals), don't have a problem with being called heavy metal and have used the term to describe their music quite often.

 

[no country for old wainds]

re: HBB

vic was endlessly annoying when it came to that subject. he was an interesting person though, i see he details some of those feelings here if anyone wants to read. i recall he had a blog with more detail but i can't find that. iirc he had good taste too and released some pretty good shit on unsung heroes.

edit: lol speaking of annoying people who felt that christian metal is an oxymoron, just found this.

 

[EternalMetal]

It's laughable to take Ozzy Osbourne seriously when he has been inconsistent on this exact subject in other interviews, in addition to the fact that he was the least involved in their musical element of Black Sabbath. The people actually responsible for the musical direction of the band would be more appropriate to answer on that subject because of the second reason.

Show me an interview that contradicts what he said in the one I linked and maybe I'll take you more seriously. Otherwise I feel like you are just cherry-picking my post just to have a fucking debate, and quite frankly I expected better replies than this. My original point still stands, but I have a feeling you dont even care enough about it to comment on it.