you understand the album perfectely... what does that mean to you? You can put it into a cd player and put the volume up?
The secret to Tool's "Lateralus"
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you understand the album perfectely... what does that mean to you? You can put it into a cd player and put the volume up?
LoboUivante
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OK, I like Tool and all, but I must admit, a lot of it is pseudo-intellectual bullshit.
And as for the Enochian/Solomonic spin, well, I've been studying western occultism pretty intently for around 10 years, and I disagree with your theory, which is sketchy at best.
A song named after Dee's Enochian alphabet hardly constitutes an Enochian or Solomonic concept album. I am familiar with occult based songs/albums, and I doubt it's buried too deep for me to find ANY conclusive evidence of a concept...
I think it's a good theory and all, very interesting at points, but I just don't buy it. The ambiguity of Tool's lyrics can be interpreted in many ways (so can a lot of songs), but sketching a vague outline in mystic pencil just isn't enough for me. They don't colour in the whole, and then hide it. They throw a couple of references, and come across as a lot smarter than they actually are.
Once again, don't get me wrong, I think tool ARE smart (compared to a lot of music), and I think they are a cool band, but I just don't think it is enough to justify deification.
Anyway, there's my two cents.
And as for the Enochian/Solomonic spin, well, I've been studying western occultism pretty intently for around 10 years, and I disagree with your theory, which is sketchy at best.
A song named after Dee's Enochian alphabet hardly constitutes an Enochian or Solomonic concept album. I am familiar with occult based songs/albums, and I doubt it's buried too deep for me to find ANY conclusive evidence of a concept...
I think it's a good theory and all, very interesting at points, but I just don't buy it. The ambiguity of Tool's lyrics can be interpreted in many ways (so can a lot of songs), but sketching a vague outline in mystic pencil just isn't enough for me. They don't colour in the whole, and then hide it. They throw a couple of references, and come across as a lot smarter than they actually are.
Once again, don't get me wrong, I think tool ARE smart (compared to a lot of music), and I think they are a cool band, but I just don't think it is enough to justify deification.
Anyway, there's my two cents.
KielbasaSausage
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it means he's not an idiot that tries desperately to read between the lines, when there isnt anything there.Icon of siN said:
Siberia said:
The Scarlet Letter isn't all that obscure, really. I had to read it in high school.
And uh, wasn't there a movie made out of it a few years back?
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anonymousnick2001
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Winona Ryder is hot.
Well, only in some of her movies...like in Mr. Deeds she was hot. In Girl, Interrupted and Beeteljuice...uhhhh...
Well, only in some of her movies...like in Mr. Deeds she was hot. In Girl, Interrupted and Beeteljuice...uhhhh...
to me, trying to make sense to things just by referring to what band members/ webmasters say is doing yourself and the whole point of studying music a big disfavour. Why? Because if there would have been "directors comments" available to the original copy of "Hamlet", "Beowulf", "The Wizard of Oz", "Casablanca" or even the bible, then a couple of hundred years of literature and poetry studies would be useless. However, film makers nowadays does exactly that - commenting on their works - but film studies doesn't die because of this.
The first poster of this thread, and some other posts, does not, in my opinion, primarly talk about a particular album or a particular band, but something broader in perspective. Mystic traditions could be found in most cultures, i.e. the kabbhalistic movements within judaism and christian medieval occultists wanting to find keys to unlock the secrets within myths fundamental to mankind.
In a world that more and more loses its' mystic and mythic narratives (science taking over what to believe, secularization), there's a big surge for a feeling of mystery - and Tool, as an example of an expanding culture within the broader popular culture - fills this basic need.
It's not just that "The lord of the rings" (movie) is a good production that so many people go to the theatres to see it, or that "the Matrix" has cool visuals, - they bring mystery to a world which has become naked and quite boring. Same goes with Tool. And studying these concepts (whether it be Tool or Matrix - which has gone through a massive amount of academic examination) - and study those who study them, fills a need of broader understanding.
The first poster of this thread, and some other posts, does not, in my opinion, primarly talk about a particular album or a particular band, but something broader in perspective. Mystic traditions could be found in most cultures, i.e. the kabbhalistic movements within judaism and christian medieval occultists wanting to find keys to unlock the secrets within myths fundamental to mankind.
In a world that more and more loses its' mystic and mythic narratives (science taking over what to believe, secularization), there's a big surge for a feeling of mystery - and Tool, as an example of an expanding culture within the broader popular culture - fills this basic need.
It's not just that "The lord of the rings" (movie) is a good production that so many people go to the theatres to see it, or that "the Matrix" has cool visuals, - they bring mystery to a world which has become naked and quite boring. Same goes with Tool. And studying these concepts (whether it be Tool or Matrix - which has gone through a massive amount of academic examination) - and study those who study them, fills a need of broader understanding.
KielbasaSausage
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winona ryder was in scarlet letter. holy shit i want to jump her bones, even if she is a theif.
KielbasaSausage
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anonymousnick2001
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Oh...
Damn you guys...you listen to Tool because some punk-ass fool like Osbourne listens to them?
I listen to them because Carson Daly does. That's a reason.
Damn you guys...you listen to Tool because some punk-ass fool like Osbourne listens to them?
I listen to them because Carson Daly does. That's a reason.
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