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I got about a quarter thru and the website just spazzed out lol.
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Aha! There he is! You really put slammed thru his paces!
Makes it sound like he was my coach!
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It's also why I think Reverend's debut is better than MC's
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I understand these sites can't just copy the whole article, but those two paragraphs were almost pointless compared to the entire article. They should just post links to the full article instead of doing that.
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Paul Baloff did 1 demo with Heathen,
Mercy Is No Virtue
and Hypnotized
Mercy Is No Virtue
and Hypnotized
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Here's what Paul did with Piranha. There seems to be some conjecture about how the songs were packaged, because I found 4 separate listings for EP's but this is the 4 songs he did together as one.
Apparently Hetfield produced tracks one and two
Apparently Hetfield produced tracks one and two
redfly
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Love it!
He definitely had a unique murderous brutality in his delivery. What was going on there? Was he going to be in Heathen?
That last song has a few parts that sounds like they took a couple Testament songs and mashed them together. In a good way.
redfly
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Here's what Paul did with Piranha. There seems to be some conjecture about how the songs were packaged, because I found 4 separate listings for EP's but this is the 4 songs he did together as one.
Apparently Hetfield produced tracks one and two
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Let me guess Hatfield's first idea was to turn the bass to 1 right?
I like the second song a lot more than the first. Although I don't hate that one. There's some awesomness here throughout. I might like Heathen a little more. Maybe it's just the difference in quality.
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Paul had a lot going for him as frontman of Exodus, but in the end he just wasn't dependable enough for a major band which is why he was canned. No one knew where he was before flights were supposed to leave and the decision was made.
I think they wouldn't have been half as productive with Paul, and therefore not anywhere near as successful unless somehow Baloff has managed to get clean in the mid 80s.
I do think the timbre of Zetro's voice in the 80s limited their success though, and is one big reason Anthrax leap-frogged over them although Exodus was playing thrash before them.
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I am late to the thrash party and wasn't listening to it in the 80s but as rabid fan of thrash for the last 20 years or so I think the factor that limited Exodus' success was inconsistent song quality on the follow up albums to Bonded by Blood. They set the bar high and never matched it again. I've been listening to Fabulous Disaster a lot recently and while the highlights of the album are great a lot of the songs on there like Cajun Hell and the lowrider cover have not aged well.
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I don't know what the deal was, he wasn't in the band for long and they released another demo in 89 without him. So whether it was issues between members or something else I haven't read, but it was short lived.
It's very raw and Paul's voice definitely would have made Heathen a hell of a band.
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Rumour is that Hetflied was doing this at the same time Lars was turning the bass down
I don;t know who actually turned the bass down but I don't think James did a bad job.
I think I like Heathen better and you're right it could be a quality issue. But I also think the songs seem better written. Piranaha seems a bit like a band that hasn't found their sound, Heathen actuallyseems to me like they could have taken what they had and moved forward.
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Exodus were playing thrash before just about everyone. Paul's lack of organisation was nearly as bad as Chuck Schuldiner, the difference was Death was Chuck's band and if he didn't want to get on a plane the band didn't. Paul was never the leader of Exodus and his antics where never going to be allowed to rule the band.
Personal traits aside I still think Exodus needed Zetro to be as big as they were, but Paul was in many ways a better singer.
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That's true, the first few songs on FAB Des are great but the rest of the album really does fall into the listenable category rather than great. On Bonded there wasn't the difference between the first side and the second side of the record, all the songs hold up well.
I seem to be one of the few who actually thinks Impact was a good album from start to finish, maybe not as good as Bonded but still right up there as a classic Exodus. I also don't hate Force Of Habit as much as I used to, although again there is songs on that album which really shouldn't be there.
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You really missed out.
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A lot of people say that but I don't agree at all. They say the same about Dark Angel and "Darkness Descends".
BBB is a great album, but even it has some filler and I think "Strike of the Beast" is the most overrated song in their whole catalog.
The band was playing much better and doing more interesting guitar work on the albums after Bonded.
I like the music to Cajun Hell a lot. The lowrider cover .... well ... it seems that thrash bands used to do a lot of covers back in the day. I don't know if the record company told them to do it or they though that it would help them get airplay. Notice how they all have gone away since then. Anyway, I wish pretty much all those thrash cover songs would go away except for the ones Metallica did.
I think "Pleasures of the Flesh" is a great album, and the first 5 albums all have some excellent tracks.
I would say that some songs on AJFA didn't age well either but it's still a great album.
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zerostatic
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Interesting guitar work does not always equal more interesting songs! I think another aspect that hurt Exodus was poor album covers. Were there any other thrash bands in the 80s that were putting the band on the cover of nearly every album? And then there was Force of Habit which looks like they Xeroxed a desk covered in shitty graffiti.
