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That has offended me!
Are you going to cancel me now?
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Oh and just an FYI:
AK says you should all listen to Queensryche. Apparently he went to see Judas Priest and Queensryche yesterday and while he's in awe of Rob and thinks the rest of JP are pretty good he's full of praise for the 'ryche too.
AK says you should all listen to Queensryche. Apparently he went to see Judas Priest and Queensryche yesterday and while he's in awe of Rob and thinks the rest of JP are pretty good he's full of praise for the 'ryche too.
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I just finished watching the Dropkick Murphys St Patties day special live from Boston. This is the third, maybe even fourth, free live stream event the DKM's have done in 2 years. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH OUR BANDS?
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I still think it's funny that Todd (Ryche) said that they and Flotsam should tour together. I haven't seen Queensryche play anything but casinos when they aren't opening for someone like Priest in years.
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Maybe the money/interest isn't there? I paid for an Exhumed and Goatwhore live show/recording during the pandemic. I would have loved if they were free but also didn't mind supporting the bands during the pandemic.
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Yeah I really don't know.What the deal is. I know Lamb Of God had some really successful live streams. If Testament or another band I liked did one I would have no problem paying. But I'm not everyone.
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Speaking of politics and metal, did you guys notice during that Overkill live show a Ukraine flag made its way on the stage? They draped it over the drums for a few songs but I noticed it was removed before they came back on stage for the encore.
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I think that's a piss poor excuse used by bands happy to sit on their arse and ride the wave. Too many bands have spent 2 years bitching about not playing, and not being able to make money. A live stream gives a band the opportunity to make money from the entire world in one single event with the overheads of only one show. I don't even care if they are free or not, too many bands did SFA for the fans yet the fans are still rewarding them. Ok there has been some album releases which has given fans something but when a live show is so easy to stream these bands missed out and missed out big time.
If a band like Obituary can do 4 pay for view events in 4 weeks, from their house, then bands like Testament, Exodus, F&J etc could surely do them. From memory there was figures spoken about where Obituary had up to 35,000 people streaming their events at a time. You don't have to be good with sums to know that 35,000 x $30 (which it was for us here) made them money. But given the costs of streaming and the overheads from their own house, they probably made more from that gig than just about any night in a club.
But to me it's not even about money, most of the bigger bands were still getting paid during the pandemic. Whether it was from record sales, merch sales, or other lines of things they all have set up. Or others like that dickhead from Destruction said early on when he was bragging that the German government would pay him not to play and any band not set up like his were fucking stupid. I like people who give it a go and don't just wait for shit to come to them, so the bands who did something during the pandemic, free or not, are the ones I'll be supporting into the future, not the bands who sat on their arses and waited for people to pay them.
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But payment isn't the be all and end all of these things. I'm sure bands like Testament and Exodus could afford to put on a live stream for free. They pick the venue, they put on a skeleton crew for sound and lights, they do a deal with a mob who can handle the stream, whether there is a paying in house crowd or not would have been up to whatever rules were in place. A one off like that wouldn't or at least shouldn't break the bank account of any band. Shit, if the band can't work local deals where half of that stuff is provided at a discount during a pandemic then their sales and management team should be fired. Even if costs bellied out to $20K, we are talking about bands and labels who have made millions between them, if they couldn't find that kind of money to 'buy' the fans during a time where tours aren't happening then something is wrong. Even if the band wants to make that money back, how many $30 tickets does a band have to sell worldwide to make $20K (devilishly enough it's 667
), and there is no chance in the world that a band like Testament or Exodus would sell less than a 1000 tickets to such an event.I think too many bands had the same attitude as that dickhead from Destruction. As well as claiming any band who wasn't set up like Destruction to receive government payments was stupid, not taking into account that not every country offered what the German Government did, the wanker also claimed he'd never do drive in gigs, or any other gig where he could not have a large crowd. In other words they were happy to ride out the pandemic because whatever money they were making was sufficient to get by despite many crying poor that the music industry was dying.
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In many ways I don't blame them. Politics is too divide right now to actually make a scene about it. I've never gone to a gig to hear the band talk politics (looking at you Mr. Mustaine). I don't mind seeing the flag on stage, I don't even mind hearing a band tell me to keep Ukraine in my prayers (I might even do it if I prayed), but I don't want to hear it everytime the singer speaks and if things are going to divide a crowd, or even a band I don't want to see it at show. Maybe Overkill had the same thoughts, maybe they were making their own statement by only having it there for a short time, either way I don't take much notice of it until they make a big deal about it.
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/c...st-in-playing-on-next-testament-studio-album/
Dave's 'down' to write an album? Shit from all the press the last few weeks I didn't think this needed to be stated, I thought they'd glued Dave's butt to the drum stool for eternity.
Dave's 'down' to write an album? Shit from all the press the last few weeks I didn't think this needed to be stated, I thought they'd glued Dave's butt to the drum stool for eternity.
