Third and final presidential debate, 2008
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grimmy82
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Ack, dude, you seem like such a nice guy and that's why it's so tough to see you make such a complete ass of yourself in political threads.
Please stop.
Exactly how did I make an ass of myself?
And I'm a woman, btw.
grimmy82
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She is just full of fail. She honestly scares me more than Mccain does and Mccain is pretty god damn scary.
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grimmy82
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I'm on part 15 of this debate. Geez Mccain is so pissed off and extremely rude. He won't even look at Obama. Did Mccain's wife forget to give him his happy pills that day?
No. But admittedly, that was a dumb post. It wasn't meant to win any arguments.
Political debate may not be a strength of mine, but be assured that I am not just blindly following the Republican party or something like that. As I have stated in the past, I disagree with the idea that the government is supposed to take care of us. I think they should be setting up a system which allows us to take care of ourselves. I think the entitlement mentality hurts America and just breeds complacency and laziness. People should be treated equal and be given equal opportunity. People who make more are already taxed more than people who make less. The idea that they should be penalized and have more taken away just because there are people who have less is ridiculous. I am a person who makes less, so I have nothing to gain from feeling that way. I think Obama's policies and ideology are somewhat socialist, and I do not trust him not to take it further in that direction. I think his pro-abortion views are extreme. I think there are too many unanswered questions in Obama's past. I think there are too many unanswered questions in Obama's present. The birth certificate? The Acorn thing? Why are there so many things that are out there about him that go unaddressed? Why didn't he answer about the public funding lie? I suspect Obama of being highly unpatriotic and of not really loving this nation, but of wanting to change it into something it was not intended to be, and something that is weak. I know we need to coexist in this world and be good neighbors and all of that, but I think the priority of America is America first, then the rest of the world. I believe Obama would compromise what is the United States of America in favor of something like a "United States of the World". I don't think that a timeline for leaving Iraq makes sense. I think we should aim at minimizing our presence, but in a way that makes sense, not a way that meets a deadline. The list goes on...
So don't accuse me of being a sheep or blindly following. We obviously disagree, but if we agreed on everything, one of us would not be thinking.
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Damn, that's a hell of a list. I guess thanks for taking the time to clarify your position. Maybe I'll get around to a response tomorrow, though I would assume you're not really going to budge much since most of the things you bring up are based on personal ideology and trust issues. The "liberals" among us here have probably already made our point by now anyway.
The Ozzman
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He forgot to take his little blue pill so he didn't get any action and, therefore, is cranky
ShredHeadJHJ
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What a fucking waste of time. My friend said if he was voting he would vote Libertarian. He's not voting though. Don't waste your time.
The Ozzman
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I might as well vote for what I believe regardless of it being a 'wasted vote' than voting for a major party I don't agree with merely because my vote would actually 'count'.
I have said a lot of that stuff before in other threads, and you're probably right that I am not going to change my mind on much of it any time soon. I am willing to listen, though. I know I still have things to learn.
All of our views are based on our personal ideologies. All of our views are based on some combination of our experiences, educations, beliefs, upbringing, etc. It's like I was saying before, two intelligent people can disagree to the point that they think each other are idiots, and that is precisely because their views are based on different things.
I think this is well illustrated in how liberals feel that the government should have all of these programs that help the poor among us, and conservatives disagree. It's not that conservatives don't care, or think there should be no programs, it's that we feel the right solution is something else. This is evidenced by the level of charitable giving and volunteerism among conservatives. Conservatives, though they make less on average overall, give much more money, time and blood to charitable organizations. In our view, we should have the choice to decide what to do with our income and time, and a large percentage of us choose to help those less fortunate. Who is wrong on this issue?
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Do you have anything to back this up other than erroneously making a 1:1 connection between religion and conservatism?
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It would be great if a third party could gain power and not severely weaken Dems or Repubs
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