This forum is in desperate need of moderation

*fight .. I just wanted to correct you Pol, since you seem so hung up on spelling/grammar. As for my own spelling/grammar, I write how i want... we are not here to be graded for a term paper in college (though you wouldn't know what that is like yet because you are either still in HS or about to start college in the fall if you are even going to continue your education) ... we are fans of metal music not English professors in Harvard etc. Of all the music's of the world (excluding rap and other black music) fans of metal music should not give a shit about grammar/spelling. If you were a classical music fan strictly which actually requires more then a two digit IQ then maybe i would say you are right. But a form of music where they sing about satanism, violence, drugs etc. (not to mention most but not all band members in metal bands arent HS or college educated) should not give a shit. If you are that anal you really need to go out more and get a life. And believe me I know proper grammar more then you will know or realize, i just choose not to show it because it's stupid to have "proper" grammar/spelling on of all places a forum about metal music.

As for this forum degenerating, I suspect it has done more so since you have joined/registered to it in what? October of 2003. You never have any "intelligent" input to any threads. All you do is go from thread to thread and "flame" up people & put the blame on the people you "flame" as the instigators. You are by far the instigator in most if not all "flame" ups.As for your thread (this one) ending up as a flame up what did you expect? For everyone to rise and say, "Hey this 17 Year old kid is right and we should get rid of everyone who doesnt agree with our viewpoints or like the bands we like and let's not forget they must have perfect grammar/spelling.". This like much of your other posts is just another stupid reason to start a flame up. I do have to admit you are very Machiavellian (though I am not sure if you are aware that you are being so or you are just doing it subconciously. BTW if you are intelligent as you say/believe you are and haven't read it yet.. pick up a copy of Nicolo Machiavelli's The Prince so you see what I am talking about) because some people do not see what you do like i do.If you do not like someone's opinion then give your own opinion/pointview instead of insulting them and flaming them up. Show some class and as you like to put it "intelligence". If any moderator bans or shuts anyone up on this forum they will most likely do it to you just by reading the posts in the threads and seeing who started what and what was said. Not by someone's grammar/spelling or opinions that differ from your own.

As for you not saying that you wanted to ban me. Ill give you that since you weren't specific on the first page of this thread of yours. But you did put me on your list of people that should not post "OR" be banned. Anyways that's enough for me on this post. I am sure you will response with some insult since that is all you seem to be able to do. But I do not blame you for the way you are. After all when i was 17 (I'm 32 right now so in 1987 if you want to do the math & when you were just born or still in your mom's womb) i thought i was "mature" and could pass judgement on everyone around me. And believe me despite what intelligence you think you possess it will never make up for your immaturity. And yes you are immature regardless of what you think to the contrary. You act like a kid/child and show it on the forum with your whining and tantrums. I have not broken any forum rules & as much as you would like to ban/stop my posts it will not happen. So do yourself a favor and if you do not want to response to my opinions intelligently and maturely then just dont response at all and ignore my posts. Anyways no response necessary if you will just being throwing insults cause it gets old (though I can throw insults with the best of them if thats what you want though its stupid to do so in this case). Anyways later.. I wasted enough time on this thread tonight. :wave:
 
Polarity is more intelligent than a lot of UM members (although I'd appreciate a cut-down on the annoying 'omghi2uplzkthx' business that Int is partially to blame for I think :rolleyes: ). Let's face it though, it's difficult to reply intelligently to threads about how soaked some 13 year old from Shropshire's panties are following the purchase of the latest HIM album.
 
Unfaithfully Metalhead said:
*fight .. I just wanted to correct you Pol, since you seem so hung up on spelling/grammar. As for my own spelling/grammar, I write how i want... we are not here to be graded for a term paper in college (though you wouldn't know what that is like yet because you are either still in HS or about to start college in the fall if you are even going to continue your education) ... we are fans of metal music not English professors in Harvard etc. Of all the music's of the world (excluding rap and other black music) fans of metal music should not give a shit about grammar/spelling. If you were a classical music fan strictly which actually requires more then a two digit IQ then maybe i would say you are right. But a form of music where they sing about satanism, violence, drugs etc. (not to mention most but not all band members in metal bands arent HS or college educated) should not give a shit. If you are that anal you really need to go out more and get a life. And believe me I know proper grammar more then you will know or realize, i just choose not to show it because it's stupid to have "proper" grammar/spelling on of all places a forum about metal music.

As for this forum degenerating, I suspect it has done more so since you have joined/registered to it in what? October of 2003. You never have any "intelligent" input to any threads. All you do is go from thread to thread and "flame" up people & put the blame on the people you "flame" as the instigators. You are by far the instigator in most if not all "flame" ups.As for your thread (this one) ending up as a flame up what did you expect? For everyone to rise and say, "Hey this 17 Year old kid is right and we should get rid of everyone who doesnt agree with our viewpoints or like the bands we like and let's not forget they must have perfect grammar/spelling.". This like much of your other posts is just another stupid reason to start a flame up. I do have to admit you are very Machiavellian (though I am not sure if you are aware that you are being so or you are just doing it subconciously. BTW if you are intelligent as you say/believe you are and haven't read it yet.. pick up a copy of Nicolo Machiavelli's The Prince so you see what I am talking about) because some people do not see what you do like i do.If you do not like someone's opinion then give your own opinion/pointview instead of insulting them and flaming them up. Show some class and as you like to put it "intelligence". If any moderator bans or shuts anyone up on this forum they will most likely do it to you just by reading the posts in the threads and seeing who started what and what was said. Not by someone's grammar/spelling or opinions that differ from your own.

As for you not saying that you wanted to ban me. Ill give you that since you weren't specific on the first page of this thread of yours. But you did put me on your list of people that should not post "OR" be banned. Anyways that's enough for me on this post. I am sure you will response with some insult since that is all you seem to be able to do. But I do not blame you for the way you are. After all when i was 17 (I'm 32 right now so in 1987 if you want to do the math & when you were just born or still in your mom's womb) i thought i was "mature" and could pass judgement on everyone around me. And believe me despite what intelligence you think you possess it will never make up for your immaturity. And yes you are immature regardless of what you think to the contrary. You act like a kid/child and show it on the forum with your whining and tantrums. I have not broken any forum rules & as much as you would like to ban/stop my posts it will not happen. So do yourself a favor and if you do not want to response to my opinions intelligently and maturely then just dont response at all and ignore my posts. Anyways no response necessary if you will just being throwing insults cause it gets old (though I can throw insults with the best of them if thats what you want though its stupid to do so in this case). Anyways later.. I wasted enough time on this thread tonight. :wave:
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edit for some reason i actually read some of that shit and for all you people who have better things to do here is a summary:

"i want people on this forum to act stupid because i think metal is stupid because i listen to dimmu borgir and children of bodom :) everyone should discount polaritys opinion because he is 17 and therefore he cannot contribute anything of worth because of course intelligence is always directly related to age :) also i make assumptions about his join date and i am a year off :) when i was 17 i thought i was mature but it turned out i wasnt but then again i am still a fucking dumbass now so i guess that doesnt matter :) in summary i take the internet way too seriously and i condemn polarity for whining and having tantrums because i assume that he takes the internet as seriously as i do :) also i am a faggot :)"

there you go unfaithfully see how easy it was to condense that post with lots of words into a post with less words so people dont have to go through the unbearable torture of seeing you talk for so long :)
 
:: yawn :: ... never said your opinion doesnt count kiddo.. just that you only throw insults yet claim to contribute intelligent discussions.. iv'e yet to see you do so... if anyone takes anything serious its someone who is so anal as to want people banned because of differing opinions and their use of grammar/spelling. Anyways you responded exactly like i expected you to do so. as for yourself your a legend in your own ass & mind and it explains your fudgepacking obsession with me if you want to throw insults. but you are right about when you joined.. you have been here even less then i thought. anyways you still are a puberty pimple faced idiot who im sure got/gets picked on in school so uses forums/internet to throw insults at people he will never see face to face to make up for getting his ass kicked in school by bully's he probably corrects their grammar/spelling as well.. respond to me i'm sure you can't ignore me cause it eats you inside not to do so. :wave: :loco:
 
Alright now onto someone's opinion that actually matters. j/k (Don't get all hot under the collar bro's)

In all seriousness this forum doesn't need moderation. If you can't handle the heat stay out of the kitchen. I don't come on here blatantly looking to attack people. If I have offended anyone during my tenure as poster on this forum then I offer my sincerest apologies. If I'm attacking kriglous or guardian or any of you other disgruntled teens, then let it be known that I have no real animosity towards any of you! This is afterall the "internet". If you're at the point in which you are actually quite disturbed by posts/posters then its time to turn off your pc and see some sunshine. Polarity you're only 17 and I'm sure this forum means quite a deal to you. If you really want the forum to turn around...Then lead by example! Rather than having a temper tantrum. I know summer break has bestowed upon you alot of "free time". Maybe you can allocate those extra hours in something more constructive than a dissertation on everything wrong about this specific forum. I'm not trying to be an ass. But at your age...Your biggest concern should be if you'll be able to some how conjure up a plan to get a prom date, rather than if the general discussion forum is infested with trolls (yours truly excluded)

Now have a great a day!
 
Guardian of Darkness said:
May I ask why you don't think I'm a suitable candidate though, just out of interest?
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Because you're too opinionated and argumentative.
Neither are actual flaws but a board moderator would need to be even handed.
If there was to be one, I'd suggest the Catfish man.

 
polarity said:
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edit for some reason i actually read some of that shit and for all you people who have better things to do here is a summary:

"i want people on this forum to act stupid because i think metal is stupid because i listen to dimmu borgir and children of bodom :) everyone should discount polaritys opinion because he is 17 and therefore he cannot contribute anything of worth because of course intelligence is always directly related to age :) also i make assumptions about his join date and i am a year off :) when i was 17 i thought i was mature but it turned out i wasnt but then again i am still a fucking dumbass now so i guess that doesnt matter :) in summary i take the internet way too seriously and i condemn polarity for whining and having tantrums because i assume that he takes the internet as seriously as i do :) also i am a faggot :)"
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Well congratulations my friend, you have just contradicted yourself so blatantly that no one on this board should ever take anything you say seriously again. That was truly a masterful piece of work right there, responding to a surprisingly eloquent and informed post with a vulgar, sarcastic and all around useless spew of bitter mockery. I don't know about everyone else, but that doesn't seem to be an effective way to raise the level of discourse around here. Ask yourself this question...if we had a moderator right now, as you wish there to be, would your last post not be the first thing to be expunged from the thread? Hmmm?

Essentially what I see this to be is an effort to "weed out the weak" on the board. There are plenty of annoying people, sure, but you're setting your sights on elimination based not just on content but on grammar and syntax...how long until that turns into censorship based on musical preferences? Denying that it would ever come to this is ridiculous, you yourself just based part of your vile rebuttal on the notion that he listens to Dimmu and COB (COB being, for the record, a band I quite enjoy.)

Now, I do agree with your point that age should not always be an indicator of knowledge or even the worth of the post, as I myself am only 18...but I do think there should often a certain amount of respect paid to the older metal fans, because they have been around through more, have seen more, and often have opinions that have been shaped through years of experience. There are also some who are illiterate jackasses, but that's beside the point. Maybe people will read this post and shrug it off as the ramblings of "some 18 year old kid," and that's a shame...but that certainly is no worse than how you decided to respond above. The hypocrisy and contradiction is quite astounding from someone I believed was a sensible, albeit misguided person, and I truly think you just laid the moderator question to rest yourself. You had me with trying to maintain intelligent conversation, but I totally agree with Allwithinmymonster, that you must do this through example and any attempts to force standards on the board through moderation would be useless censorship.

Basically it comes down to practice what you preach, man.
 
LordFireworm said:
Because you're too opinionated and argumentative.
Neither are actual flaws but a board moderator would need to be even handed.
If there was to be one, I'd suggest the Catfish man.
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If I was a mod I'd only ban the obvious trolls, and I'd just delete the redundant threads ("St Anger sucks!!!" and the like), I wouldn't abuse my power by banning those who disagree with me. I wouldn't even ban people for mindless flaming, so long as they don't keep knocking threads off-topic. I don't realistically expect to become a mod of course, I can't imagine being voted in as one, heh. Bah, Nick would probably do a decent job.
 
Maybe someone should make a proper "vote who should be moderator" thread and tell Deron about it. Or, first, a "should there be a moderator?" poll.
 
it was quite obvious that his misspelling of "fight" was facetious provocation.

i just read unfaithfully metalhead's post and i've a few comments. the first paragraph is bullshit. saying "i know how to spell words correctly and use proper grammar, but i choose not to because it's stupid to be articulate on metal forums" is perhaps the weakest defense of anything in the history of existence.

has anyone suggested that we find an english professor to make sure that everyone uses correct spelling, grammar, and punctuation? stop exaggerating what is being suggested. people need be capable of making comprehensible posts, that is all.

please don't namedrop machiavelli in an ill-fated attempt to seem educated. even those who've not read him are likely to have a general idea what he wrote about.
 
None So Vile said:
I vote for GoD and Anonymousnick
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I'm actually quite flattered that quite a few people think I'd be capable of moderating this forum. I do enjoy posting a great deal, and there is usually(now occasionally) some golden thought-provoking discussion going on(and a lot of spam, yes *sigh*). I'd do a really good job, and try to be as fair as possible. Actually...

Guardian of Darkness said:
If I was a mod I'd only ban the obvious trolls, and I'd just delete the redundant threads ("St Anger sucks!!!" and the like), I wouldn't abuse my power by banning those who disagree with me. I wouldn't even ban people for mindless flaming, so long as they don't keep knocking threads off-topic.
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...that pretty much sums it up.

However, I just don't have the time. I much prefer posting. I'd even more prefer to watch GoD chase after the spammers, street-teamers, and noobs. :lol:

Thanks, though. I actually think GoD would make the best mod, provided he doesn't pull a Munich on us. ;)
 
Why not set up some sort of debate thread where we can hear the opinions of all of the moderator candidates on specific subjects and then vote based on that?

Hopefully I'm not the only one who likes the sound of this idea. It's the least biased way to go about it. Oh, and I nominate myself.
 
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