This forum is in desperate need of moderation

[Ultimate_Symphony]

those who were around here a fair while will know that as many problems if not more have been caused by the followers of Prozak and ANUS.COM as there have been by allwithinmymonster. any newer members who have less selective tastes than some members like should in my opinion be treated just as anyone else here

I care to disagree. The Anus guys have been in a fare share of debates, but most of the time things have remained quite civil. Most of the time they support their views, and that's valuable in my opinion. Allwithinmymonter on the other hand tends to insult and flame people for idiotic reasons. Regardless, I don't think he should be banned because he's changed quite a bit since he first started posting.

 

[Walter_Langkowski]

I already posted above what was wrong with his post. If you seriously believe he's even semi-intelligent, you have some really low standards.

*LONG SIGH*...


Children...glad I don't have any.


Again, you just don't like what this dude is saying (and I'm not saying that I agree with him, BTW). You obviously haven't seen some truly OFFENSIVE things in your brief time around, to get your feathers so ruffled over another guy's opinion.

You want him banned for disagreeing with you. Admit it, realize it's NOT going to happen, and move on, okay?

 

[polarity]

*LONG SIGH*...


Children...glad I don't have any.


Again, you just don't like what this dude is saying (and I'm not saying that I agree with him, BTW). You obviously haven't seen some truly OFFENSIVE things in your brief time around, to get your feathers so ruffled over another guy's opinion.

You want him banned for disagreeing with you. Admit it, realize it's NOT going to happen, and move on, okay?

Christ, did you even READ my post? He made two ridiculous assumptions which did not follow logically from anything anyone said, he failed to justify his own arguments, and had no grasp of basic factual knowledge. Also, his general spelling and grammar were rather terrible. What does any of that have to do with disagreeing with me?

 

[kollex]

I care to disagree. The Anus guys have been in a fare share of debates, but most of the time things have remained quite civil. Most of the time they support their views, and that's valuable in my opinion. Allwithinmymonter on the other hand tends to insult and flame people for idiotic reasons. Regardless, I don't think he should be banned because he's changed quite a bit since he first started posting.

Thats the things that annoys me about them. i agree that they are more valuble in terms of discussion than allwithinmonster. in fact as you say they explain their musical tastes and political views in an effective and interesting way. the problem is when they do go over the edge they do so in a more damaging way than allwitihinmymonster has.

bare in mind that mornelithe falconsbane has been banned from this site many times whereas allwithinmymonster has been left untouched. The last time he was banned under his Dying Sun alias you may recall, was when he started ranting and raving and going on about all the anti-semitic theories and slights he could think about on some poor soul who just happened to put Tel Aviv as his location .


add in their strange Chuck Schuldiner fixation and theyve caused more trouble than allwithinmymonsters weak attempts at trolling.

When they are civil and conservationally constructive i have no problems with them. In fact i enjoy their contribuations nowdays. But when they troll, they troll a lot worse (or better depending on how you look on it) than allwithinmymonster ever could

 

[NAD]

This forum is a cesspool and should remain as such. I come here on occasion out of morbid curiosity, and with a moderator the trainwreck appeal would be lost.

 

[Ultimate_Symphony]

When they are civil and conservationally constructive i have no problems with them. In fact i enjoy their contribuations nowdays. But when they troll, they troll a lot worse (or better depending on how you look on it) than allwithinmymonster ever could

Yeah, that's true.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

If there were mods, this place would be useless.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

I agree this board needs a slightly more stringent degree of moderation due to curtail some of the silly posts and street teaming. the question this degree of moderation will be managed. I suggest adding 2 or 3 veteran posters (around before 2003) to this forums mod team with clear guidelines they have to abide by.

I'd willing to be one of the mods if enough of you want me to. I've been around since April 2002 and have enough reason to know when and when not to moderate a conversation. And I have enough self discipline to not moderate someone who bashes a band I like or something unreasonable like that...

Anyone have sugestions for other potential moderators?

 

[None_So_Vile]

Polarity - Would you rather anyone wanting to become a member took an IQ test as part of the registry process and then the results sent to you for your judgement?

Does this board have a sticky thread saying "you must have perfect typing skills and a perfect grasp of english spelling and grammar"? No, it does not.

Someone wants to get into metal bands but they're a n00b and like bands that most of us think suck donkey cock but they lack supreme typing skills or forget to check their posts for correct spelling and grammer....oh god no!! damn them to hell!!

I'm all for more moderators to cope with the amount of street teamers and trolls but banning people because they haven't got a high standard of typing, grammer or spelling skills is just ridiculous. I also (although it may not sound it) sympathise with your view in a way... Yes it does get annoying when you get people typing in text talk (hello how is u 2day, i lyk metallica) but that's something we just have to live with and it's become a common way of typing in these times.

The idea of the UM boards is not to create some elitest fortress that requires exams to get into, it's a website aimed at dragging the underground, above ground so metallers around the world can discuss their favorite bands, recommendations, interesting subjects such as ideology etc...

Also I do think appointing more mods, whilst it is a very welcome idea, it could be tricky because power (yes ok it's only a forum but still..) easily corrupts and it might even go to the extreme of mods banning people because of their personal feelings. We need people who are open minded and can see all points of view within reason and when rules are broken or things get out of hand then they know how to deal with the situation maturely and responsibly.

I think I'll bring my post to an end now, I just realised how long it's dragged on

Sorry for adding a mundane pile of blabber to the thread

 

[Ultimate_Symphony]

I'd willing to be one of the mods if enough of you want me to. I've been around since April 2002 and have enough reason to know when and when not to moderate a conversation. And I have enough self discipline to not moderate someone who bashes a band I like or something unreasonable like that...

Anyone have sugestions for other potential moderators?

Instead of nominating moderators, I think we should wait for Deron. I don't think we're in desperate need of moderators right now, we already have Dill, although someone else could be useful.

 

[polarity]

Polarity - Would you rather anyone wanting to become a member took an IQ test as part of the registry process and then the results sent to you for your judgement?

Does this board have a sticky thread saying "you must have perfect typing skills and a perfect grasp of english spelling and grammar"? No, it does not.

Someone wants to get into metal bands but they're a n00b and like bands that most of us think suck donkey cock but they lack supreme typing skills or forget to check their posts for correct spelling and grammer....oh god no!! damn them to hell!!

grammar*

I have a fairly decent tolerance for poor spelling and grammar, but when people who show a blatant disregard for the laws of English are tolerated, as I said earlier, it will encourage newbies who already have an inclination to act in that matter to do so. I suspect that the majority of people here aren't that stupid, it's just laziness, and it's not conducive to intelligent discussion. You said yourself that it's annoying, so what's the problem?

 

[Walter_Langkowski]

Christ, did you even READ my post? He made two ridiculous assumptions which did not follow logically from anything anyone said, he failed to justify his own arguments, and had no grasp of basic factual knowledge. Also, his general spelling and grammar were rather terrible. What does any of that have to do with disagreeing with me?

So fucking what?

He has as much as a right to post here as you do. Stop trying (in vain) to grab some air of superiority just because you have better grammatic knowlege and you know where to put your periods.

The whole point of this is not of your abovementioned reasons, rather that his posts (among others, IYO) are offensive and deserve to be banned. Well, guess what? I, as well as anyone else involved, would have to agree that he hasn't posted anything REMOTELY offensive at all, and that the real reason that you are still going on on this is because I called you out for being a presumptious little bitch for getting upset at a wee bit of dissention of your personal opinions.

People disagree on messageboards. Some people can't spell on top of it. That doesn't exactly qualify as offensive. Get used to it and stop your moaning, little fella.

 

[LordFireworm]

Is it because I posted that pic. of Hitler?

Are you seriously telling me that you didn't post the picture of Hitler to piss off the guy who said he didn't like Swastika avatars?
Regardless, this has gotten out of hand. I liked your AC song about Kittie being raped on their tourbus.

 

[polarity]

So fucking what?

He has as much as a right to post here as you do. Stop trying (in vain) to grab some air of superiority just because you have better grammatic knowlege and you know where to put your periods.

The whole point of this is not of your abovementioned reasons, rather that his posts (among others, IYO) are offensive and deserve to be banned. Well, guess what? I, as well as anyone else involved, would have to agree that he hasn't posted anything REMOTELY offensive at all, and that the real reason that you are still going on on this is because I called you out for being a presumptious little bitch for getting upset at a wee bit of dissention of your personal opinions.

People disagree on messageboards. Some people can't spell on top of it. That doesn't exactly qualify as offensive. Get used to it and stop your moaning, little fella.

Did I ever even say I wanted him banned? I believe I actually said I wanted to him to stop posting, although I might be wrong. Regardless, who says the only reason someone should be banned is because they cause offense? I don't think that should even be a consideration at all. The problem is that his input is idiotic, unproductive, and causes the forums to degenerate. That's enough of a reason, in my opinion.

 

[Hulk Hogan]

the swastika guy should be a moderator

 

[Walter_Langkowski]

Did I ever even say I wanted him banned? I believe I actually said I wanted to him to stop posting, although I might be wrong. Regardless, who says the only reason someone should be banned is because they cause offense? I don't think that should even be a consideration at all. The problem is that his input is idiotic, unproductive, and causes the forums to degenerate. That's enough of a reason, in my opinion.

Fair enough. Your opinion. My opinion is: you should stop posting because you are a little bitch.

 

[Oblivious Maximus]

Regardless, this has gotten out of hand. I liked your AC song about Kittie being raped on their tourbus.

Yes, it has gotton out of hand.

I'm glad you liked the Kittie song.

 

[polarity]

Fair enough. Your opinion. My opinion is: you should stop posting because you are a little bitch.

oh ok

ill fite u

 

[Demiurge]

how do you know that i'm trying to be "big, bad, and dangerous" by using the avatar that i do? perhaps, my motivation is that i have NS leanings, perhaps, i am trolling this forum. perhaps, a combination of the two.

are you sure he's "dedicated" to getting a rise out of those with PC inclinations? personally, this is the first time i've seen him do this.

sodomy, eh? yes, i went to fuck your mother's ass, but it was too tight, so i had to cut it to squeeze in.

 

[Profanity]

The forum seems fine to me.