This girl GETS IT

There is such a thing as having a brain that works in such a way that surviving in the world becomes very hard. Whether or not it's called "illness" doesn't matter, the fact remains that just coz it might look like a cool trip doesn't mean it's fun to have to spend your whole life in it.

Whole life? Not quite sure about that, as you said, the reality of surviving becomes very slim. I still can't believe Garreth can actually say that mental illnesses are a way to separate people. You are not a psychiatrist, nor have you studied sever crippling disabilities, so stop acting like your some expert.

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Now I'm curious about what was going on that video or wahatever.

Here you go buddy!

 
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Fuck no. The poor child is screwed and there is nothing positive about it. Gareth stop slipping into this alternate reality stuff. For your own good and well being of others. This type of thinking killed a lot of good artist in the past. I personally know people that are stuck on a trip and now pretty much wonder the streets aimlessly. Reality is where you want to be.

I have friend I grew up with that was "normal" and now is schizophrenic. He doesn't like it all. The voices in his head tell him to do all kinds of fucked shit. He sits around thinking about what it would be like to kill just anyone in front of him. He wonders what a persons heart would taste like. All kinds of strange things. He used to make music, now he just can't.

Take care.
 
Now that I know what's going on here:

Fuck no. The poor child is screwed and there is nothing positive about it. Gareth stop slipping into this alternate reality stuff. For your own good and well being of others. This type of thinking killed a lot of good artist in the past. I personally know people that are stuck on a trip and now pretty much wonder the streets aimlessly. Reality is where you want to be.

I have friend I grew up with that was "normal" and now is schizophrenic. He doesn't like it all. The voices in his head tell him to do all kinds of fucked shit. He sits around thinking about what it would be like to kill just anyone in front of him. He wonders what a persons heart would taste like. All kinds of strange things. He used to make music, now he just can't.

Take care.

Yeah, it's not cool by any measure.

In my hometown there was this schizophrenic dude. He was not violent at all and was in some kind of open treatment so he could walk freely on the town etc. For a day or two he did not take or get his meds and went wacko. Wandered into some random house and stabbed a man (my friends uncle) to death. Lesson learned.
 
Whole life? Not quite sure about that, as you said, the reality of surviving becomes very slim. I still can't believe Garreth can actually say that mental illnesses are a way to separate people. You are not a psychiatrist, nor have you studied sever crippling disabilities, so stop acting like your some expert.

If i'm the target of that, I am no expert, nor do i pretend to be... Maybe i phrased it badly, by "hard to survive" I don't mean life or death as such, more a sort of general coping with the life you have "survival". Probably the wrong word for the occasion. As far as the "whole life", that's more of a "Gareth, imagine the *reality* of it, not the hippy dream" comment.
 
I love when people say they're insane. It reminds me of me and all my friends being 13 year old dickheads. "I'm like totally insane! I'm unique, being crazy is the best! My parents don't understand me!" No, shut the fuck up, you're not insane and you have no idea what you're talking about. Anyone who's ever had family with mental illness knows there's nothing great about it. And I've seen this girl before and it makes me incredibly sad, mostly for her family.
 
If i'm the target of that, I am no expert, nor do i pretend to be... Maybe i phrased it badly, by "hard to survive" I don't mean life or death as such, more a sort of general coping with the life you have "survival". Probably the wrong word for the occasion. As far as the "whole life", that's more of a "Gareth, imagine the *reality* of it, not the hippy dream" comment.

The first bit was towards you but the majority of it was towards Gareth, and was just me poking fun of your last few words because I agreed with the fact that all mental illnesses are a struggle for survival everyday as a mental illness to me is defined as a condition where a person cannot function normally. If you cannot function normally at a cognitive level, surviving literally everyday without getting into life threatening situations becomes a struggle, and is worse depending on the severity of said illness.
 
Yeah, it's not cool by any measure.

In my hometown there was this schizophrenic dude. He was not violent at all and was in some kind of open treatment so he could walk freely on the town etc. For a day or two he did not take or get his meds and went wacko. Wandered into some random house and stabbed a man (my friends uncle) to death. Lesson learned.

Wow, that sucks.

Even though my friend has these thoughts all the time, he hasn't acted any of them out (Except eating his own jizz :ill:) nor does he want to. Still he is suffering from the "voices in his head" 24/7. It all started with him digging at his skin to find the micro chips in his blood. :Spin:

The whole point is, this isn't some kind of gift. It sucks.
 
While creativity should be celebrated, I would not trade the ability to be infinitely creative over my ability to form relationships with other people. Thats what is sad about this disease. She is stuck in her own imaginary place and can't tell the difference between that and reality. This is a huge problem if you want to try and form relationships with other people. It is common bonds (such as where you live, who you know, what things you like) that allow people to form relationships. Odds are she will never make friends like we can. She will never be able to fully enjoy reality like we can. Fortunately she has loving parents that are doing their best to give her a happy life.
 
i kind of get what gareth means, if we didn't think of these "mentally ill" people as mentally ill, and different, then we might understand them better, but i've known a lot of people badly effected by mental illness, and half my relatives have suffered or died from them, so i'm not sure xD
 
^ yeah, I totally see where Gareth is coming from. It's kind of like thinking of them as "special" rather than thinking of them as "mentally ill." It's a compassionate way of looking at the situation.

However, you have to look at what makes them "special" and see if it is a benefit or a disadvantage to their overall well-being. I'm not a medical expert, but I would think it's possible to scientifically determine that people with schizophrenia have different brain chemistry than people without. Something physical is happening in their brain that affects the way they think. This could be a good or bad thing depending how it affects them. Comparatively, when someone has extra cell tissue growing in their body, it could be a good or bad thing as well. You could be working out to gain muscle mass, or you could have cancer. Different is only good if it affects the overall person's well-being in a positive manner.
 
i kind of get what gareth means, if we didn't think of these "mentally ill" people as mentally ill, and different, then we might understand them better, but i've known a lot of people badly effected by mental illness, and half my relatives have suffered or died from them, so i'm not sure xD

As do I.

However, there is a big difference between celebrating illness, and finding issue with the way that society as a whole treats those afflicted with it.

I know first hand that being diagnosed as mentally ill can adversely affect an individuals life. I suffer from depression (although thankfully I have not really been affected by it severely for some years now) My parents never had me officially diagnosed (to the point where I would be legally obliged to state it in certain situations) because that would mean that I would instantly be unemployable in many roles. Particularly in the military, something that was and still is something I would love to do immensely. Even though in reality I could function just as well as someone without a mental condition.
 
However, you have to look at what makes them "special" and see if it is a benefit or a disadvantage to their overall well-being. I'm not a medical expert, but I would think it's possible to scientifically determine that people with schizophrenia have different brain chemistry than people without. Something physical is happening in their brain that affects the way they think. This could be a good or bad thing depending how it affects them. Comparatively, when someone has extra cell tissue growing in their body, it could be a good or bad thing as well. You could be working out to gain muscle mass, or you could have cancer. Different is only good if it affects the overall person's well-being in a positive manner.

Well put.
 
^ yeah, I totally see where Gareth is coming from. It's kind of like thinking of them as "special" rather than thinking of them as "mentally ill." It's a compassionate way of looking at the situation.

However, you have to look at what makes them "special" and see if it is a benefit or a disadvantage to their overall well-being. I'm not a medical expert, but I would think it's possible to scientifically determine that people with schizophrenia have different brain chemistry than people without. Something physical is happening in their brain that affects the way they think. This could be a good or bad thing depending how it affects them. Comparatively, when someone has extra cell tissue growing in their body, it could be a good or bad thing as well. You could be working out to gain muscle mass, or you could have cancer. Different is only good if it affects the overall person's well-being in a positive manner.

I can agree. This girl is "special", IMO.

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