What's everyone driving?

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2002 Dodge Intrepid
 
Oh 1 more thing, the Saleen S7 Supercar's top speed is 245 and thats the 06' model not the new one :)

The S7 you are referring to is the twin turbo that puts out 750HP

Ok one more ... the Saleen 302 Boss naturally aspirated with only 425hp does over 200, so explain how a car that's 400lbs lighter with more horse power and better gear ratio couldn't hit 210?

thats a stretch, reaching 210 with less than 500HP is something I would have to call bullshit to.

Just the break down general physics about HP. For a typical street car with no weight reduction, inclduing, A/C, stereo and the whole 9, requires about 250HP to reach 150mph, and another 750HP to reach 250mph, so 250HP to get to 150, and 1000HP to get to 250. Considering Nascars put out 450HP and top at just short of 200, and F1 cars around 780HP top around 220 (AND THEY ONLY WEIGH 1,300 POUNDS).
 
The S7 you are referring to is the twin turbo that puts out 750HP



thats a stretch, reaching 210 with less than 500HP is something I would have to call bullshit to.

Just the break down general physics about HP. For a typical street car with no weight reduction, inclduing, A/C, stereo and the whole 9, requires about 250HP to reach 150mph, and another 750HP to reach 250mph, so 250HP to get to 150, and 1000HP to get to 250. Considering Nascars put out 450HP and top at just short of 200, and F1 cars around 780HP top around 220 (AND THEY ONLY WEIGH 1,300 POUNDS).

Not going to argue over this. Some people are just severely mis-informed on somethings..... final post regarding this.
 
When the last thread like this popped up a few years ago I didn't bother because I was still driving my beat up 99 altima but this time around I'm two months into this baby and DAMN proud...

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2010 1lt/RS Camaro with a 6 speed manual. It's a V6 but with 312 horses it still hauls ass...

Manual for the motherfucking win
 
Just the break down general physics about HP. For a typical street car with no weight reduction, inclduing, A/C, stereo and the whole 9, requires about 250HP to reach 150mph, and another 750HP to reach 250mph, so 250HP to get to 150, and 1000HP to get to 250. Considering Nascars put out 450HP and top at just short of 200, and F1 cars around 780HP top around 220 (AND THEY ONLY WEIGH 1,300 POUNDS).

This is in no way, shape, or form a break down of general physics. There are so many more factors than horsepower that play into how fast a car goes. Gearing, aerodynamics, weight

"Nascars" as you put it, actually have more like 850hp. The reason they only go 190 at Daytona / Talladega is because of a restrictor plate choking the motor to ~450, and have a massive spoiler causing drag, and have a final drive ratio mandated to 1:1 aka no overdrive. (S281 has a .67:1 overdrive) F1 cars are built and geared for extreme acceleration, not top speed. They have enormous amounts of downforce limiting the top speed, but they will still go much faster than 220. I don't know where you pull your info from...

http://www.catherineandken.co.uk/sti/tyres.html
http://www.supercars.net/cars/3159.html

The theoretical top speed of the S281 Extreme by these specs is 224mph.


Of course this doesn't account for wind resistance, but the car doesn't have a massive wing/spoiler in the rear... it's laying flat. He was going downhill; it's entirely possible to go 210, so get off guru's nuts.
 
This is in no way, shape, or form a break down of general physics. There are so many more factors than horsepower that play into how fast a car goes. Gearing, aerodynamics, weight

"Nascars" as you put it, actually have more like 850hp. The reason they only go 190 at Daytona / Talladega is because of a restrictor plate choking the motor to ~450, and have a massive spoiler causing drag, and have a final drive ratio mandated to 1:1 aka no overdrive. (S281 has a .67:1 overdrive) F1 cars are built and geared for extreme acceleration, not top speed. They have enormous amounts of downforce limiting the top speed, but they will still go much faster than 220. I don't know where you pull your info from...

http://www.catherineandken.co.uk/sti/tyres.html
http://www.supercars.net/cars/3159.html

The theoretical top speed of the S281 Extreme by these specs is 224mph.


Of course this doesn't account for wind resistance, but the car doesn't have a massive wing/spoiler in the rear... it's laying flat. He was going downhill; it's entirely possible to go 210, so get off guru's nuts.

you start off calling me wrong and actually contradict that by mentioning other points that I didn't mention, but now to show that I know what I am talking about I will elaborate.

First of all, it doesn't matter what the engine was tuned to put out, if a restrictor plate limits the engine to 450, its only 450. Yes at 450 HP a nascar's top speed it 198, and without a restrictor plate on a practice run at Talladega, Rusty Wallace broke the record at 228 however the car was dyno'd at near 800 hp. The fastest an F1 car was recorded without any engine restrictions was 244 and was putting something close to 900 hp to the wheel.

now regardless of weight even, you can make a graph with an x and y axis, one axis can be top speed and the other can be HP, now if you start to chart out random cars, this can be every care imaginable, street cars F1, nascar, for the amount of HP they are putting to the wheel generally corresponds to a close approximation to the slope x^2, close to being within 20% if the cars weight to power ratio is worth a damn.

Now if you noticed the slope their is something quite peculiar about it. Simplifying physics a lot I may add, the rule of thumb I mentioned works for a few equations in force actually one really. Every time you double your speed, you have to quadruple the hp to get you there, this is because not only is the vehicle fighting its own force at that velocity, it is also fighting that force equal again in wind resistance. The model I initially noted was based on a 2 ton vehicle, now at this model, 150 hp is required to reach 125 mph ( I was a bit off at first) and in order to reach 250 mph, you need 1000hp, now this is relatively true for most cars, now it is not absolute given aerodynamics and weight, but as I said if the power to weight ratio is anything decent on the car it will be damn near that slope.

start looking at the hp of certain cars and where their max speed is, after awhile you will begin to notice a pattern.
 
Guys, post pics for illustration! I don't know what all of those cars look like and for me in most cases the outside is the big part :lol:

I drive one of these thingos:

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Gets me where I want, and it's only been driven 110K - it's pretty quiet too. Fits through smallest spaces... I want a bigger car, but I'm terrified driving regular sized ones because I'm used to the size of the early 90's Astra
 
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2004 Saturn Ion 1. Not my car in the pic, but it looks the same. It's got power nothing - crank windows, manual locks, and I had to put a CD player in after I bought it :grin:

I've got a 15 minute commute, so a full tank of gas lasts me nearly 2 weeks in this puppy. Love it.

On the down side, I moved my drums for the first time since buying this car (which was 4 years ago, now). Man, did trying to fit 5 drums plus hardware in this car SUCK.
 
regardless, they are fuckin' sweet cars. Finding them period for sale is hard as hell, but that would mean that it would be so much more rewarding to own one.