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I love how you people think that outboard gear will die haha. Keep on dreaming. Plugins will probably continue to sound better but there will always be a guy saying that "the original sounds better".
Whats the future of metal production in the next 10 years (2010-2020)?
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StefTD
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I would love to hear more music recorded for surround systems, would be pretty intense to listen
to Gorguts or Neurosis with the feeling of standing in their rehearsal room.
to Gorguts or Neurosis with the feeling of standing in their rehearsal room.
Arsenu,
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after getting rid of the nessecity of using an amp, a guitar, a bass guitar, drums, keyboards and all that useless crap, the next phase is to eliminate creativity.
NI will probably come up with auto-riff or something like that which generates random riffs according to music style so with the click of a button you get a verse, than a choros and a C part
back 2 choros two more times and the album is ready!
NI will probably come up with auto-riff or something like that which generates random riffs according to music style so with the click of a button you get a verse, than a choros and a C part
back 2 choros two more times and the album is ready!
Brett - K A L I S I A
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I think metal production will stay as is. I'm hoping the bands writing/playing style changes in general.
I think now bands know they can get pristine sound for 10k, they may start to chase a different dragon. Like writing songs that don't make me puke.
I think now bands know they can get pristine sound for 10k, they may start to chase a different dragon. Like writing songs that don't make me puke.
brianhood
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i think there will be a lot of work for mixing engineers, since more and more bands will be tracking their own stuff. Bands will still know good mixes from their own terrible ones, so there will still be plenty of work out there
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A lot less tracking work and a lot more mixing work, for sure. MIDI drums, bass and guitar DIs will become the norm, and the mixing engineer will be expected to reamp and sample up everything for the rate they normally would have charged just to do a flat mix.
Very poor tracking work with mediocre prosumer gear will mean these records will never have a chance to rival the best releases sonically, and most mix engineers will be caught up in trying to make the best of a less than ideal situation. Due to non-existent production budgets, the mastering process will generally get incorporated into the mix process, as more efficient 'loudening' tools are created.
Actually hang on, am I just talking about today?
Very poor tracking work with mediocre prosumer gear will mean these records will never have a chance to rival the best releases sonically, and most mix engineers will be caught up in trying to make the best of a less than ideal situation. Due to non-existent production budgets, the mastering process will generally get incorporated into the mix process, as more efficient 'loudening' tools are created.
Actually hang on, am I just talking about today?
joelplagues
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What your saying does coincide with today's happenings but right now its just the birth of it. I honestly agree that every band will be tracking it themselves and if they know whats good they will get it mixed elsewhere.
In response to brian's post. I don't really think bands can tell what sounds great cd wise.As long as it sounds better than, the band in one room with a ps2 mic it instantly sounds amaZING and br00tz.
also will see the rise of live recording. The whole band in one room and only vocal and solo overdubs. only it won't be with tight session players it will be every band and metal will sound bad for it but the good bands will inevitabley shine.
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But what happens when that guy dies? Looking at it from a morbidly realistic POV... alot of the aging rockstars may very well be gone by the 2020's so what happens when everyone who is still clinging to the analog stuff head to insert religious/personal belief concerning death here. I mean I'm sure most of the people here would rather use hardware comps and such vs. plugs if we had the option, but eventually the Audio world will be overwhelmed by people that grew up with Waves, Native Instruments, and Toontrack... it's inevitable I think. There are more and more people who are starting to record and have never touched or seen (in person) a hardware compresser, eq, etc. JMHO
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EDIT: That first statement is probably more focused on a 2040-50 future rather than a 2020.... too much forward thinking
... I'm agreeing with most of what Jason says below though.-P
guitarguru777
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i have been giving this a lot of thought. Being one of the older members of the forum and having experience with recording on old 4 tracks,16 or 24 track tape, ADAT and DAW's I think it gives me a bit broader perspective.....
Recording and Producing has come a very long way in the last 20 years. When I was coming up into the industry tape was still a big thing and ADAT was literally just getting started. To see all the advancements in the last 20 years is astounding. Things like Waves Plugins that can almost flawlessly emulate vintage gear, things like the AxeFX being able to faithfully recreate every nuance of a Tube Amp, Cabinet and Microphone I firmly think that over the next 20 years things will only sound BETTER.
By better I mean more polished. Its very easy today to get great sounding drums and guitars with a few clicks of the mouse. Digital technology has taken all of the "WORK" out of the recording process. This is not without its downfalls.
I see a huge decline in the realm of creativity, which will homogenize all of the newer bands. Kids can sit in their bedrooms and with very little effort make recordings that are as good or better then million dollar studios. This will lead to kids not putting the time into writing and learning their craft. Whether it be playing an instrument, writing a song, or learning to work with other musicians and play as a "BAND".
Guitars will get tuned lower, there are already 9 string guitars on the market and I dont think its going to stop there. I see low C# coming into play in the next 4 or 5 years. This is going to drive more "djent" type music due to the fact that notes of that frequency when distorted just turn into pure mush, and the only thing that sounds good on them is playing percussive rhythms.
5 years after that there will be a HUGE backlash and return to form of standard and D tuned guitars. Rehashes of bands like Godsmack, Disturbed, Korn and Limp Bizkit, Pearl Jam, Tool, Soundgarden. We are currently in a thrash revival of sorts with bands like Evile, As I Lay Dying, Trivium, and Bullet For My Valentine. The Hair Metal revival I see happening here in the next 2 years. Its going to be an extension of what I am currently calling "Joey Core" the wacky hair styles, the tight tight jeans, ripped jeans are starting to make the comeback already.
The music industry is EXTREMELY cyclical as the former generation of listeners become the musicians of today. The kids making music now had parents who listened to 80s Thrash, Punk, and Hair Metal and you can see how it has influenced these kids. We are in a mid / late 80s revivial currently. We are sitting around 85 or 86 right now. Neo-Classical is the hot shit guitar thing, Tight / Ripped jeans are starting to pop up. Pop melodies are working their way into music with heavier guitars.
This cycle will continue. Music will just start sounding more "perfect" and polished as the talent level gets lower and lower. There will always be "backlashes" of sorts. But music will continue to evolve to the point where it will take one mouse click to write an entire song.... eventually.
Recording and Producing has come a very long way in the last 20 years. When I was coming up into the industry tape was still a big thing and ADAT was literally just getting started. To see all the advancements in the last 20 years is astounding. Things like Waves Plugins that can almost flawlessly emulate vintage gear, things like the AxeFX being able to faithfully recreate every nuance of a Tube Amp, Cabinet and Microphone I firmly think that over the next 20 years things will only sound BETTER.
By better I mean more polished. Its very easy today to get great sounding drums and guitars with a few clicks of the mouse. Digital technology has taken all of the "WORK" out of the recording process. This is not without its downfalls.
I see a huge decline in the realm of creativity, which will homogenize all of the newer bands. Kids can sit in their bedrooms and with very little effort make recordings that are as good or better then million dollar studios. This will lead to kids not putting the time into writing and learning their craft. Whether it be playing an instrument, writing a song, or learning to work with other musicians and play as a "BAND".
Guitars will get tuned lower, there are already 9 string guitars on the market and I dont think its going to stop there. I see low C# coming into play in the next 4 or 5 years. This is going to drive more "djent" type music due to the fact that notes of that frequency when distorted just turn into pure mush, and the only thing that sounds good on them is playing percussive rhythms.
5 years after that there will be a HUGE backlash and return to form of standard and D tuned guitars. Rehashes of bands like Godsmack, Disturbed, Korn and Limp Bizkit, Pearl Jam, Tool, Soundgarden. We are currently in a thrash revival of sorts with bands like Evile, As I Lay Dying, Trivium, and Bullet For My Valentine. The Hair Metal revival I see happening here in the next 2 years. Its going to be an extension of what I am currently calling "Joey Core" the wacky hair styles, the tight tight jeans, ripped jeans are starting to make the comeback already.
The music industry is EXTREMELY cyclical as the former generation of listeners become the musicians of today. The kids making music now had parents who listened to 80s Thrash, Punk, and Hair Metal and you can see how it has influenced these kids. We are in a mid / late 80s revivial currently. We are sitting around 85 or 86 right now. Neo-Classical is the hot shit guitar thing, Tight / Ripped jeans are starting to pop up. Pop melodies are working their way into music with heavier guitars.
This cycle will continue. Music will just start sounding more "perfect" and polished as the talent level gets lower and lower. There will always be "backlashes" of sorts. But music will continue to evolve to the point where it will take one mouse click to write an entire song.... eventually.
GarethSE
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For once, I think I agree with every single word you just said.
Primarily "this cycle will continue."
It self perpetuates. Good genre -> Watered down version of genre -> market saturation -> backlash -> new, good shit again
rinse repeat.
Suffocation -> Deathcore -> Joeycore -> backlash -> new good shit again
Primarily "this cycle will continue."
It self perpetuates. Good genre -> Watered down version of genre -> market saturation -> backlash -> new, good shit again
rinse repeat.
Suffocation -> Deathcore -> Joeycore -> backlash -> new good shit again
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Interesting (i mean, really).
How about going one step further and having people attend band rehearsals... wait that's called GIGS haha
