a little like misogynist and imbecile, i guess?Lost To Apathy said:"Liar and womanthe two words are the same."
i love gender-based stereotypes, they're such a revealing test of someone's wits or lack thereof.Silent Song said:god bless the man who finds a woman who doesn't change her mind on everything every 30 seconds.
Silent Song said:men are simple idiots. i openly admit my baseness. however, when discussing women, one must always talk about women(t) as in, women as a function with respect to time (t). god bless the man who finds a woman who doesn't change her mind on everything every 30 seconds.
I used to take a similar stance to ye, Rahvin. But Ive seen too many women with dark hidden agendas, and too many kind hearted girls that still fuck people around, have blatant mood swings and lie, not so much to other people, but more to themselves. Doesnt mean I dont like women, just means I think a flaw in the female equation is that they are pretty needy and self centered. Emotional Validation is instinctively the female kinds primary goal.rahvin said:i love gender-based stereotypes, they're such a revealing test of someone's wits or lack thereof.
i'm sorry, but i think this is completely destitute of value. the quantity of women you've come to know enough to pass judgement over are hardly a number for statistics. moreover, they certainly share many other characteristics besides being women. for instance, i'm inclined to believe they were all caucasian. so why don't you go around saying that caucasians are lying bastards, as opposed to asians or black women? most of those women, i'm sure, belonged to a certain age group. so why don't you go around saying that young girls are scheming man-eaters, as opposed to women in their forties?King Chaos said:But Ive seen too many women with dark hidden agendas, and too many kind hearted girls that still fuck people around, have blatant mood swings and lie, not so much to other people, but more to themselves. Doesnt mean I dont like women, just means I think a flaw in the female equation is that they are pretty needy and self centered.
then the best grow up to be adult, scheming death eaters.rahvin said:young girls are scheming man-eaters, as opposed to women in their forties?
does that reflect on the self as well? i mean, if you're involved - you being a woman - do you suddenly become coquettish and vain and only interested in different kinds of make-up? or are we always just talking about the monster of the week? (<-- hope someone will get this quote)hyena said:gender stereotypes are always wrong unless they're right, which has a 5 per cent probability of occurring on average, and 80 per cent probability of occurring when one is involved.
well, i do not reflect that particular stereotype, but i know that on a deep level i reflect one which is just as common: i am a woman, i look for a strong man who will keep me safe, whose characteristics i would like to be reflected in my children, and who will be a stabilizing presence in a family. so if the stereotype is "women look for a good breeder who gives them shelter" i fit the stereotype - in 80 per cent of occurrences, as stated above. the vilest bits of this particular model, those connected to money and lavish lifestyle, also might apply, so i'm not even claiming to reflect a "natural" stereotype. all people are shit to some degree in these situations, including me.rahvin said:does that reflect on the self as well? i mean, if you're involved - you being a woman - do you suddenly become coquettish and vain and only interested in different kinds of make-up? or are we always just talking about the monster of the week? (<-- hope someone will get this quote)
rahvin said:i'm sorry, but i think this is completely destitute of value. the quantity of women you've come to know enough to pass judgement over are hardly a number for statistics. moreover, they certainly share many other characteristics besides being women. for instance, i'm inclined to believe they were all caucasian. so why don't you go around saying that caucasians are lying bastards, as opposed to asians or black women? most of those women, i'm sure, belonged to a certain age group. so why don't you go around saying that young girls are scheming man-eaters, as opposed to women in their forties?
you claim that you don't want to generalize, but generalizing is the only thing this subject is about: women - you say - change their mind every thirty seconds. by that you mean to say that out of the twenty (to be generous) young british girls from your neighborhood you've come to know at least a bit, twenty were actually changing their opinion all the time. and you mean to infer a rule from that? pathetic.
but that's not an immediate stereotype about women. merely a guideline for women's behavior through history. the reasons are based on upbringing, and i don't really think this is disputed by prejudice. a common stereotype is that women only care about shopping for clothes, or that they cry very easily. i think that both are true to a degree due to that very same upbringing, but nowadays it's pretty easy to be completely different, even for a woman.hyena said:so if the stereotype is "women look for a good breeder who gives them shelter" i fit the stereotype
my point exactly: it's not gender-specific. very few things can be proved to be based on someone's gender, as opposed to some more or less standard way that people belonging to a certain gender are brought up.uh, another cliché i find myself fitting when emotionally involved is the one about changing my mind every 30 seconds, but i tend to notice that this is not gender-specific; i am under the impression that men get confused and inconsistent just as much as women do.
i'm just saying the limits to your experience are manifest. but the same thing goes for mine, it doesn't really change anything that i'm older or that i've traveled more: i don't know enough women or men to form an opinion about characteristics that are supposed to involve a whole gender. i don't think anybody can, which is why generalizations are based on prejudice alone.King Chaos said:Didnt wanna offend anyone, sorry if I did, but you're calling my views from my experience pathetic. What else have I got to go on?
i'm sure they do. i find feminist texts pretty despicable, as they aim to perpetuate the prejudice, only this time favoring the other gender.I've read feminist texts which agree with my views on women.
yase! thank you. :Spin:TheFourthHorseman said:Wasn't that MotW (not maudlin of the Well) thing an X-Files reference?