Who invented Blastbeats?

Blast Beats suck ass, and they show a lack of creativity in the drum department, no matter how fast and difficult they may be.
 
Love the blast.... love the blast.

At times it can get a bit monotonous, like in early Immortal. But when done well there's nothing better than a break into the blast beat :rock:
 
No, no. You're all wrong!

There's an old Emerson, Lake & Palmer song called "The Barbarian" - Carl Palmer does a full-on assault towards the end! Of course the year we're talking about is 1970. Check out for yourself!

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Blast beats can be fucking boring, monotonous and barely audible.

Or they can be good... Emperor, Zyklon, Dimmu's PEM to name better known albums.

I do them on my computer desk with screwdrivers when listening to really pumping songs. They have a lot of energy. The rythm of the music often gets my leg jiggling.

I have no idea whether they are hard to do or not, and I don't really care. But I enjoy them, though I'm not a fan of brutal death. I prefer it when they are played in technical death or black metal.

Currently listening to Bathory - Massacre.. these are almost blast beats, prolly not fast enopugh though, anyway, cool song for 1986, I was 5 years old at that time.
 
like every musical technique, they are a tool that when used appropriately can certainly be great and assist in creating the art which is music. However ('as with all music techniques') it is abused and used too much and most of the time doesnt achieve what it could. There are some very very cool riffs ive heard, and that my band have written (hehe, thats not self praise because the songs were written before i arrived) that sound great with blasts... but then there's bands who just throw in a blast the same way they throw in double kicks and vocals and verses/choruses and solos and etc ... meaninglessly.
 
There is very few bands that have actually used them to enhance the music... I find that alot of BM bands do it just for the sake of saying "Yeah... Blast Beats!!", not taking into account that a riff might sound better with something better.

In the Chorus of Martyr's WARP ZONE, there is very tasteful use of a blast-passage... Extremely technical stuff, and the blast works as a fill..

Morbid angel's FORMULAS FATAL TO THE FLESH is one of the very few albums with alot of blasts that i appreciate... for it really enhances the music, and it isn't just stupid... it is mixed up with some really jazzy and intricate drumming too.

Dimmu Borgir have kindof learnt over the years, as puritanical relies less on blasts, yet it uses them as a way to enhance... The only old song that i like is MOURNING PALACE.... :rock: best song ever written by a BM band... and it uses blasts sparingly... the rest of the album is just stupid satanic "gaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!!" music.:rolleyes:

I reckon' that LARS ULRICH inverted them... He invented double-kick and poly-rhythms too... :p LARS!! :rock:

:lol:
 
From a Punk perspective you'd be looking at bands like Deathwish, Deep Wound, DRI, NYC Mayhem, Rapt and Larm. These bands were around in 1982-84.

The first metal band I ever heard who used blastbeats for the main part was Genocide, who later became Repulsion.

Repulsion gets my vote. Listen to the Horrified album. Forget the production and marvel at the quality of the riffs.
 
Originally posted by Trapped
There is very few bands that have actually used them to enhance the music... I find that alot of BM bands do it just for the sake of saying "Yeah... Blast Beats!!", not taking into account that a riff might sound better with something better.

Agreed.



In the Chorus of Martyr's WARP ZONE, there is very tasteful use of a blast-passage... Extremely technical stuff, and the blast works as a fill..


I'm awaiting another chance to get some stuff by these guys


Dimmu Borgir have kindof learnt over the years, as puritanical relies less on blasts, yet it uses them as a way to enhance... The only old song that i like is MOURNING PALACE.... :rock: best song ever written by a BM band... and it uses blasts sparingly... the rest of the album is just stupid satanic "gaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!!" music.:rolleyes:

Agreed again.

I reckon' that LARS ULRICH inverted them... He invented double-kick and poly-rhythms too... :p LARS!! :rock:

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It's funny, because when I was a kid first discovering heavy metal with ...And Justice For All, I thought he must've been the best drummer of all time. Oh how wrong was i??
 
It's funny, because when I was a kid first discovering heavy metal with ...And Justice For All, I thought he must've been the best drummer of all time. Oh how wrong was i??

...And Justice For All is my favourite album from any band... Even more favourite than death (which is saying ALOT for me...! For Chuck was god!)...

It is awesome. It still is. Lars' drumming isn't too bad, and in some spots he actually does some pretty cool stuff on AJFA.... He is actually a pretty damn good drummer now, listen to S&M... he nails EVERYTHING. ha ha... ANd all this after i started the Lars Bashing... :grin: )

Bottom Line: ...And Justice for all is awesome.

There is a group of cds that are 'awesome', just great music... even though i appreciate the work of other bands more.

Metalli'fuckin'ca - ...And Justice For All :rock:
Mega'fuckin'deth - Rust In Peace :rock:
Machine'fuckin'Head - Burn My Eyes :rock:
Sepul'fuckin'tura - Arise :rock:
De'fuckin'ath - The Sound Of Perseverance:rock:

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I have ...And Justice For All to thank for EVERYTHING.. I discovered music with this album. It is probably the most listened to album ever, though, I think prometheus overtook it.

anyway, I loved the long songs, I loved the progression. And it was the only time that hetfeild actually beefed his little voice out. There were some amazing riffs.

But at that time, I was unaware of better bands that were out then.

I'm listening to Bathorys Blood Fire Death from the same period, which is damn good, but an acquired taste, that me as a 7 year old would not have been able to grasp.
 
God invented the blast beat... No seriously, it was probably adopted and modified from 70's prog rock or something like that.