Who's stuff is the most diffucult to play(guit.)

soulshred

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ofcourse this depends on who can do which tecnique better but generally who do you think is the most diffucult stuff to play on guitar.(metal stuff only not Holdsworth,Lane stuff)
I think M.Romeos and Joe Stump are insanely diffucult.What do you guys think?
 
soulshred said:
ofcourse this depends on who can do which tecnique better but generally who do you think is the most diffucult stuff to play on guitar.(metal stuff only not Holdsworth,Lane stuff)
I think M.Romeos and Joe Stump are insanely diffucult.What do you guys think?

Jason Becker. Fastest, cleanest sweeps in the history of mankind. His most simple playing rapes Yngwie's fat ass.

www.jasonbecker.com
 
This debate is kind of pointless, as once you get past a certain speed it really doesn't matter anymore. Who is to say whether Serrana is more difficult than Far Beyond the Sun or whatever?

Anyway, that being said, I still think Paul Gilbert has the most vicious right hand picking chops ever (go watch the intro for Intense Rock 1).
 
The fastest player ive ever heard is rustey cooley, although he wouldnt even make it into my top 20 favs. Close behind are michael angelo and petrucci....and ferrario aswell even tho he is a nobody who cant string a tune together and is a bit messy. These players all hit around 22 notes a second i think.

The 'second league' in terms of speed are people like ygnwie and romeo (these happen to be my two favourites of all time), becker, vai, satch etc....all around 18-20 notes a sec top speed. However you have to bear in mind that romeo's stuff whilst not as fast picking as cooley and angelo, he does things most people wuoldnt even consider playing: crazy interval leaping and sweeping and tapping with incredible fluidity. Same with yngwie, his shred sounds so natural its like he played it at 60 bpm perfectly phrased with interval leaping and then sped it up using a machine. Its not just up and down scales mindlessly.

So yeah...theres raw speed, then theres hard stuff played fast.





then theres musicallity which is what really counts but thats not what we're talking abuot here :)
 
dargormudshark said:
I would say the hardest stuff would have to be Alan Holdsworth and Frank Gambale's Centrifugal Funk. That song brings tears to my eyes. :worship:
Difficult yes, but I believe Centrifugal Funk is Gambale and Lane.

Truth In Shredding is Gambale/Holdsworth.

I say that Holdsworth is easily the most difficult to play. You can practice Gilberts picking, Becker's sweeping, and Romeo's string skipping. But you can't practice having huge hands like Holdsworth....

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I think a couple people hit the nail on the head about Jason Becker's sweep picking. I mean... how the hell he ever got his sweeping soooo smooth, and with the quick turnaround picking at the corners, and in such even time.... god dammit! A lot of Romeo stuff is really hard because of the timing, when he gets into hitting 5 or 7 notes per beat, you really have to take a long time to feel that one out if you aren't going to bullshit it, and MJR definitly does not bullshit it. I think playing like Nuno Bettencourt is really hard, with like 1000 little variations in a song that all kick ass and are well executed, the guy is super talented at riffing out.
 
Ah, the old "Cacophony" days, when Becker and Freidman RIPPED IT UP!!!

Man, I remember seeing Becker at a Cacophony show, ripping arpeggio madness with his left hand, and doing freaking YO-YO TRICKS with his right hand at the same time.

SICK! but in a good way... ;)

Oh, and the ORIGINAL version of "Scarified" from Racer-X's "Second Heat" is an EXTREMELY difficult piece to pull off properly.
 
yeah... emm well rusty cooley can do those "romeo tapping runs"(watch videos), beats anyone on fast sweep picking, also fastest shredder.

i havent heard that Marshall Harrison dude, maybe hes better, but watch the videos at www.rustycooley.com, they are awesome.

paul gilbert aint good. i attended some lessons he gave here in mexico and he tunes his guitar in a way to make arpeggios very easy to play. crappy dude.
 
my ears must not be working right... i thought you said "paul gilbert ain't good".

BLASPHEMY!!!

hah hah...

seriously, he might have done that as a technique/trick to show to the noobs, but all the playing I've seen him do (and that's a LOT since 1987 or so) was done in standard tuning (well, technically a half-step down for racer-x).

arpeggios are very easy for paul to play, no matter what tuning he's using.
 
XeroX. said:
paul gilbert aint good. i attended some lessons he gave here in mexico and he tunes his guitar in a way to make arpeggios very easy to play. crappy dude.
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Um..right Paul just sucks...horrible player. You can't learn anything from him. Wonder what MJR thinks of Gilbert...

Hey, MJR tunes all strings down one step...boy he must suck.
Personally, I play in std tuning with 13-70 gauge strings and my action is 10mm at the 12th fret. Anything other than that is cheating.
 
I believe that tuning Gilbert uses on Let the Computer Decide...its a 7 string tuned DDDCFAD, those first three D strings are all an octave apart from each other, making otherwise nearly unplayable wide intervalic skips possible. Its only used on one song, and done just for a special effect so to speak, so to call him a poor player for this is pretty ignorant. His normal tuning nowadays is like Romeo, Alexi Laiho, Victor Smolski, (myself ;)), 1 whole step down to DGCFAD.