Darktran, I don't know a single other person in the world who has that opinion, or a single fan of the G3 group that likes them because they seem to hurt themselves. Where did you get that from??
To the guy who challenged people to play a single Symphony X song... the songs themselves are not hard, and the solos, while obviously incredible, aren't as hard to play as other stuff out there.
Lastly, I don't know why Meshuggah keeps getting mentioned, especially in the vein of Cynic. I think that's a pretty silly comparison.