Why doesn´t Opeth Jam?
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NIMRODEL said:
not many metal bands "jam" anymore. but id say opeth's song structures are far closer to jams than what most metal bands do these days.
I'm sure they're capable musicians, maybe they're shy or they just don't really care for doing it.
I'd like to see it one day though, it'd be interesting.
I'd like to see it one day though, it'd be interesting.
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JoeVice said:
kind of? It is. and they state it on a boot i had, that they like jamming but their songs dont normaly permit it.
they were also on interview saying that the last part of Deliverance was a jam, since they wanted to fade it out but decided to keep going.
Evan84 said:
yeah, like all those 70s groups mikael likes, or all those jazz musicians that influenced popular music to this day, or classical musicians like Mozart that used to do improv solos over pieces of structured composition.
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I don't think Closure live is a jam, I think they knew what they were going to play beforehand. But I could be wrong. I love it though. That whole song is my favorite part of Lamentations.Erich w/ an h said:
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Your sig is giving me a seizure.
Opeth doesn't jam, ever. Sure, Epilogue was a recorded jam I guess you could say, but it's a studio song.. They never played it live, and songs like deliverance and closure they already know beforehand what they're going to play so it's not really spontaneus. The ending of deliverance can't really be called a jam since its just a powerchord repeated ad nauseam.
Opeth doesn't jam, ever. Sure, Epilogue was a recorded jam I guess you could say, but it's a studio song.. They never played it live, and songs like deliverance and closure they already know beforehand what they're going to play so it's not really spontaneus. The ending of deliverance can't really be called a jam since its just a powerchord repeated ad nauseam.
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FRUGiHOYi said:
it may be just me, but it seems like it was a structered jam...its just trading improve, maybe somewhat planned...also, mike nods to martin at the end of a phrase, making it seem like it was a little bit more whim of the moment.
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Not all jamming sucks.
Examples of non-suck:
The Allman Brothers Band--The Fillmore Concerts
Robert Randolph--Unclassified
Neil Young--Sleeps With Angels, especially "Change Your Mind"
Sonic Youth--Their whole catalog (although they don't sound like a jam band because of all the distortion)
Examples of non-suck:
The Allman Brothers Band--The Fillmore Concerts
Robert Randolph--Unclassified
Neil Young--Sleeps With Angels, especially "Change Your Mind"
Sonic Youth--Their whole catalog (although they don't sound like a jam band because of all the distortion)
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Risquit said:
have you ever seen a mars volta show? half the show is jamming, which is pretty cool...although the random noise does get to me after a while...i prefer their music...but its still cool to see a jam.
structured jamming is still jamming. Not all jamming is free form greatful dead crazy space shit. There are many bands that take a song, extended it in a structured way, and then use that new structure to jam. Pink Floyd is one of them. Almost all their jamming is structured, but changes every time.
And jamming something out doesnt imply changing it, either. Neither does it being studio. Light My Fire by the doors was 50% jamming, the keyboard solo in the middle being entirely improv'd
And jamming something out doesnt imply changing it, either. Neither does it being studio. Light My Fire by the doors was 50% jamming, the keyboard solo in the middle being entirely improv'd
