WoW!!

[Salamurhaaja]

Jewel crafting is gonna be crazy, basicly you have sockets, like Diablo II and
each socket has a buff and if you include certain color gems in the sockets,
you get an additional bonus.

 

[plintus]

Jewel crafting is gonna be crazy, basicly you have sockets, like Diablo II and
each socket has a buff and if you include certain color gems in the sockets,
you get an additional bonus.

Yeah, I mentioned that, but still unaware how cool that is going to be - with all the balance thing you won't be able to do something really crazy, I'm afraid (like pumping the attributes sky-high and stuff).

 

[Kovenant84]

Yeah, and you'll also be able to make rings, trinkets, and neckpieces with it. Which basically leaves bows and staves as the only non-craftable items.

I'm an enchanter (and skinner) right now with my hunter, so I may pick up some of the other 'odd-crafting' skills like Jewelcrafting and Engineering with my new lock.

I'm actually quite happy with the changes they made to enchanting. Should take down the number of twinks by a little bit, at least, making lower levels slightly more fun. (They made it so that most of the high-level enchants required a specific level to be able to wield it.)

And the hunter changes they made are pretty nice too. It still won't get me to spec for Beast Mastery, but it'll be great to have my Death Flayer super-tanking again.

~kov.

Edit: Forgot to address the socketing. You'll still be able to do some crazy stuff with it if you pick the jewels right. Basically, you'll just have to keep optimization in mind at all times for it. It seems as though the profession could be rather hit or miss, as most things seem to be BoP items, and jewels can be replaced, but not removed, from items.

I'm planning on saving up a buttload of ore, for both the professions.

Edit2: I take back my pet comment. Normalization of all pets to a 2.0 attack speed blows. Now there's no reason to have my fun little scorpion anymore.

 

[TheFourthHorseman]

I'm planning on saving up a buttload of ore, for both the professions.

You don't use any ore for jewelcrafting do you, just the gems from veins. My friend has enough for 300 jewelcrafting skill already, and now he's just going to quit WoW.

The tier 4 set bonuses, as they are now, got released on worldofraids.com and they're baffling really...mages get a set bonus with 100% chance to get no interruption on Fireball and Frostbolt with 2 items, where as hunters get 5% less chance for Feign Death to be resisted. Talk about gimped set bonuses, as if the tier 1/2/3 ones for hunters aren't craptastic enough already.

 

[Kovenant84]

You don't use any ore for jewelcrafting do you, just the gems from veins. My friend has enough for 300 jewelcrafting skill already, and now he's just going to quit WoW.

The tier 4 set bonuses, as they are now, got released on worldofraids.com and they're baffling really...mages get a set bonus with 100% chance to get no interruption on Fireball and Frostbolt with 2 items, where as hunters get 5% less chance for Feign Death to be resisted. Talk about gimped set bonuses, as if the tier 1/2/3 ones for hunters aren't craptastic enough already.

No, you use 5 of an ore to get gems, from what I heard. And wow, thats craptastic for hunters. <cries>

~kov.

 

[Killermik]

*channels Bill Hicks*
I can answer that in 4 words: Yes. And. So. What.

So, if in some times you realise you lost a part of your life playing a game which was not even worth it, i would not think i did not warn you.
When i began playing, i was full of hopes that wow was really a "casual player" mmorpg but the point is you need to play a lot to do the high end game, and not only do you need to play a lot, but you need to play with people with no skill at all and spend nights trying to kill easy encounter and wiping because people are chating during the raids.

Now if you want to go on with another very usefull quote, go on, I warned you now

 

[Kovenant84]

Actually, I think that the expansion is going to go a long way towards helping the more 'casual' players. What with the new honor system (which seems to alleviate a lot of the 'grind your life away' problems), and the lowered caps for instances, plus the ability to later run those instances again in 'hardmode', should allow for everyone to experience a good portion of the new content, without depriving raiders of their 'epic lootz' gained from hours of wiping on the new bosses. (I've never seriously raided, but I do recognize the amount of effort that goes into downing a boss the first few times.)

I just wish they didn't make the t5 hunter armor look like crap, and the set bonus for t4 (which actually looks halfway decent) absolute shit. Seems like I'll be hitting the arenas for gear. The pvp rewards from there look beautiful, and at least they're not completely useless.

~kov.

 

[Salamurhaaja]

Ah, I just loved yesterday, had the day off due to being a finn and of course
Blizzards 15:00 deadline was nothing but a joke and could get in the game
until around 22:40 or whenever is was and thanks to their changes I had to
find new mods to fix my GUI (only very stupid people use the basic GUI) yet
I didn't bother with them yet.

Also got myself a nice 5 day forum ban for saying it like it is, cos of course
Blizzard can't handle the truth. Apparently this is trolling/spamming to them:

Dear Blizzard,

I want 3 days compensation.

Day 1: You're late (tho I'm not surprised one bit, quit giving time lines, we know you can't keep em)

Day 2: Your forums are crap and even crappier on each patch day.

Day 3: Having to find/download/install/configure my mods and having to replace perfectly fine mods
due to you not able to hold it in your pants until BC. And yes, this IS a Blizzard fault, I need to use mods
cos your normal GUI is so godawful that no sane person can use it and all the new options (SCT,
NECB, etc.) you steal from mod makers smell worse than my nuts do and you should be punished for
adding them to your GUI as "new" options, don't you realize that no one uses them?

Infact I changed my mind, for that last part you better gives us some 20+ days and any mod makers you
ripped off should get 100+ days and their mod removed from your GUI.

Of course I didn't spend all my day trying to log in like I would've a year ago,
but I'm mostly pissed of cos of my mods.

Basicly I'm playing on a LCD screen and can't have all the icon shit on the
screen for hours on end cos they "burn" on the screen and while that is not
permanent, it's still annoying and my mods are used to hide as much of the
shit (Unit Frames, Action Bars, etc.) as possible.

Now most of the ones I'm used to don't work, so I have to find replacements
and that pisses me off. Especially since the guy who makes Discord mods, the
ones that have the best options for hiding shit, wasn't aware this patch is
coming out now and not when BC comes out, so he is late with his mods and
they won't be ready until BC.

Anyway, I have found replacements/updates for most of my stuff and since
Discord stuff isn't ready I'll have to settle for some other mods and macros
for their functionality and still I'm a bit crippled in functionality.

This also pisses me off cos with Discord I was able to double my keybinds by
using OnEvent and conditional stuff to change the button functions and cos
I use Nostromo n52 gamepad instead of the keyboard, having that fuctionality
is key in most cases. I have about 25 buttons now, I used to have about 50.
Thanks Blizzard!

Blizzard needs to learn to keep it in their pants, there was NOTHING in this
patch that people need until BC and is yet another sample of Blizzard not
giving a rats ass about it's PAYING customers.

This is yet another reason why Warhammer Online will be kicking Blizzards ass
all over the map. 10 Years of MMORPG experience vs. 2 years and of course
25years worth of information vs. ~10 years is good too and they won't be
changing the storyline in a shitty way (hey, WoW has space invaders now,
w00t and heaven forbid the factions are different, so let's give paladins and
shamans to both sides, w00t) to justify some crappy ideas they came up with.

 

[rahvin]

Any product relying so much on customer's initiative and help to work satisfyingly should be open source freeware. I agree with your points.

However, Blizzard has been rewarded pretty handsomely for its carelessness and inefficiency: the number of WoW players is simply amazing. Despite the protests, everyone is still paying for their game, and this is certainly not an incentive for them to change their politics. The problem, I think, is those same idiot gamers we were talking about earlier ruin the chances for constructive criticism for everyone else as well, because we all know they'd pay to have feces dropped on them from up high if that was what it took to be in with the in crowd.

 

[Salamurhaaja]

Yeah and of course another reason is that there really isn't anything else in the
same league when it comes to playability (tho with the mods installed).

This will change in 2007 when there is more than 1 promising game coming out,
tho I will stick to Warhammer once it's here.

 

[Kovenant84]

To be quite honest, I use hardly any mods when I play WoW. Mostly I use onebag to keep all my shit straight, but aside from that I don't really have any 'essential' mods. Titan Bar helps as well, but mainly because it allows me to scale the size of the UI. I happened to find the latter yesterday, but I haven't looked around for a bag yet.

I guess because I mostly play for PvP with my friends, I was really looking forward to the honor revamp. Anything that rewards me for extended hard work without the decay is fine in my book. I never saw the point of the 20hr/day for 8 weeks grind to HWL/GM anyway.

I'm honestly a little peeved about this patch from a technical issues point of view, though. I've played about 5 rounds of WSG since it came out, due to constantly getting stuck 'between' the realm server and the bg server. I'm currently stuck in some kind of limbo between the two. I logged on this morning and left it there when I went to work just in the hope that I'll get shunted to one or the other before I get home (and/or it DC's me... again...).
From the experiences I've had in the battlegrounds, though, it's excellent. That and Silencing Shot is the coolest thing I've ever had. Casters just stand around like idiots trying to figure out why their spells won't work. Hehe.

The LFG/LFM thing is actually not too bad, as far as my experience, in its ability to pick classes that balance out a good group, but I really wish I had the option to specify 'only 60's' for instances like Scholo or Strat. Sure, they're doable with some 58's or 59's in the group, but chances are, they're not experienced, and it'll be a pita.

~kov.

 

[Salamurhaaja]

@Kov
For a all-in-one-bag mod I highly recommend the vBagnon (direct download).
It puts both your character and bank bags into their own windows and now it
even has an option to show certain categories of stuff in your bags, so you
can for example just show consumables when you open the bag, perfect for BGs.

As for Silencing Shot, I'm sure hunters needed more stuff to kill casters with,
it's not like the stupidly overpowered pet is enough, I never even thought of
needing such a shot when I was playing a hunter, I was overpowered as it
was.

There are also so many nerfs/bugs in this "patch" it's starting to reminds me
of Windows ME. Mages especially were nerfed to hell, like they weren't there
already, but I guess it's like the old saying "just when I thought I hit the
bottom, fate threw me a shovel". It's a good thing I only PvE, cos mage sure
isn't usable in any form in PvP anymore and once the BC stamina buff hits,
forget it, we're done.

As a funny note someone on the european forums noted that "Rogue is the
new lock and mage is the new druid" meaning the old lock and druid of course.

 

[Kovenant84]

Actually, I find my pet really isn't that much more powerful than it used to be. Granted, I've never specced more than 7 or so points into BM, so I can't really speak for those who've pumped up their pets as much as they can. Still, I find mostly that its dot is pretty useful for keeping pesky rogues (at a distance) unstealthed.

I do feel for mages. It seems they really got shafted this time around, and I have to say, there's not much they can do if I silence them. Although, if they catch me by surprise, usually the good ones can deadzone me pretty well.

Overall, I'm finding that I can burst out damage like no tomorrow, chewing through pallies and warriors like rogues, but the problem is that I can only maintain that for about 20 seconds. After that, I'm oom, and everyone gets close. Gone are the days I could just fire and forget.

Thanks for the mod link - I'll put it in when I get back on Sunday. The BG's seem to be going well. I never much liked the 10 hour AVs that were so common on my server, so the new 20-40 minute ones are an improvement, but it still takes something away when all you're doing is rushing past all your opponents to reach their leader. At least I'm about 20&#37; of the way to my HWL wep.

~kov.

 

[King Chaos]

The only reason I don't play this game is I know I'd just get far too into it... and it'd take ages to get up to speed with all the cretins that have been playing for years non-stop.

What are your views on the funeral crashing that happened a while back? From the point of view of someone who doesn't play, I understand why all the guys that got fucked up were upset... but it's still pretty funny. Going and pretending to mourn in a line on a computer game is pretty goddamn nerdy. Sorry if any of you were roped into that...

 

[Cuthalion]

what happened?

 

[King Chaos]

there's a hilarious video explaining... Basically, some lass died in real life and a load of weirdos decided to hold a funeral cerimony in the game out of respect... then this guild had the idea of running in and just slaughtering everyone at the funeral. It's hard to take a side, because the people at the funeral took it way way seriously, like to the point of pure outrage... the other guys seemed to just see it as a total joke and lolled through it...



It's hard to tell whose side the vid takes. Which makes it all the more better.

 

[Kovenant84]

Yeah, I had heard about that. Not really sure what to think. It's up there with crashing in-game weddings and such. Kinda strange...

And KC, giving your life to WoW can be fun

(Don't worry about not being able to keep up with the big guys - so many people make alts and the like, and there's always new characters coming in, so the realms are pretty well populated at all levels of play. You would only really have to worry about BG twinks in the lower level brackets if you were planning on pvp'ing alot.

The only true decision is faction. I think I'm pretty alone here in representing the horde.

~kov.

 

[plintus]

there's a hilarious video explaining... Basically, some lass died in real life and a load of weirdos decided to hold a funeral cerimony in the game out of respect... then this guild had the idea of running in and just slaughtering everyone at the funeral. It's hard to take a side, because the people at the funeral took it way way seriously, like to the point of pure outrage... the other guys seemed to just see it as a total joke and lolled through it...
...
It's hard to tell whose side the vid takes. Which makes it all the more better.

Marriages and anything else of "real life" based on MMORPG or any other games = lame.

For the Alliance!

People have too much time on their hands. May be in Saw IV there will be a guy from WoW who would have to cut himself a new asshole to stay alive... "I want to play a game" - jajaja.

 

[Salamurhaaja]

Marriages and anything else of "real life" based on MMORPG or any other games = lame.

Amen!

For the Alliance!

Um, no, just no. Unless you're refering to the video, can't be bothered to
watch it again and can't remember who was the crashers, if it was alliance,
they yeah, For the Alliance

People have too much time on their hands. May be in Saw IV there will be a guy from WoW who would have to cut himself a new asshole to stay alive... "I want to play a game" - jajaja.

There won't be a Saw IV, III was the end (well, we've all head that before,
but anyway...).

 

[plintus]

Um, no, just no. Unless you're refering to the video, can't be bothered to
watch it again and can't remember who was the crashers, if it was alliance,
they yeah, For the Alliance

Yes, it ws the context, yeah But if I ever gona play Horde - only cuz of Blood Elves.

There won't be a Saw IV, III was the end (well, we've all head that before,
but anyway...).

With those box-office figures they will twist it to Saw VII, trust me Just look at this - it's laying golden eggs!

Saw III (2006)