Ya know... (observation that will probably get shot down by people who know the deal)
- Thread starter Will Bozarth
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Tee
Satan's yoyo
derek
Grey Eminence
It means absolutely whore. The primary reason being that God rested on the Seventh day, there is no reference to specific days or a format of time keeping, so seeing it in that framework obviously leads to confusion.
Furthermore, does anyone else find it interesting/funny that a supreme being would conform to our very own calendar?
How kind of him!
Furthermore, does anyone else find it interesting/funny that a supreme being would conform to our very own calendar?
How kind of him!
Dead_Lioness
Godless
Will Bozarth said:
According to jewish calander, Sunday is the first day of the week,
and Saturday and Friday is the weekend.
yes.
Cat5Messiah
Violator of Sheep
WhiteBeastofWotan
Apostitutes!
Nightshade
Blonde to the bone
So, let me get this straight -- we're discussing whether Saturn day or Sun day is the Christian day of rest? Does anyone else think that's ironic?
derek
Grey Eminence
I already made some comment about it being a weird observation initially (but warranted). So, aye, the irony was not lost entirely upon me.
tered
Attained enlightenment
Dead_Lioness said:
observations:
Israel is across the international date line, so.........?
My cell phone let's me choose which day is the first day.
When going into a 7/11, am/pm or whatever, the clerk tells me "this is my Friday"... and my Tuesday. Who's right?
derek
Grey Eminence
Chromatose
Squid pro quo
really the only thing that offends me about all this is how microsoft won't let me choose what day is the first day of the week in my windows calendar dealy.
Super Mahrio
Deeply Horrible Person
Chromatose
Squid pro quo
tered said:observations:
Israel is across the international date line, so.........?
My cell phone let's me choose which day is the first day.
When going into a 7/11, am/pm or whatever, the clerk tells me "this is my Friday"... and my Tuesday. Who's right?
yeah hahaha I work with this lady who works on my tuesday, wednesday thursday. She swears by calling her work week "monday/wednesday/friday", since , as it was said, it's all arbitrary.
So on thursdays she says "see ya monday!", and I never know if she means calendar monday, or calendar tuesday. Fucking hell. I tried to get her to call it Tuesday and essentially these conversations took place as in here.
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metalskater7 said:
Maybe so but we have correct calendars...
One of my calendars has a picture of WD on it
Bet ya can't get it in US
Dead_Lioness
Godless
No one is right...
People in different religions take different days... who cares..
All I know is that the Romans added 2 months into the calendar...
August and July are "fake months" and named after Augustus and Julius...
damn Romans. I bet they did that Sunday fiasco as well.
I bet thats why Derick can not choose which day on his 'puter...
yes.
People in different religions take different days... who cares..
All I know is that the Romans added 2 months into the calendar...
August and July are "fake months" and named after Augustus and Julius...
damn Romans. I bet they did that Sunday fiasco as well.
I bet thats why Derick can not choose which day on his 'puter...
yes.
Dead_Lioness
Godless
Google is my friend:
Why and When the Weekly Sabbath was Moved
During the period 30 CE to 313 CE, Christians lived in a predominately Pagan world. There was a mosaic of Pagan religions in the Roman Empire:
The long established, official religion of the Roman Empire was Pagan. It involved worship of -- or at least nominal sacrifices to -- a pantheon of Roman deities, both Gods and Goddesses.
A strong competitor to Christianity in those days was a third religion: Mithraism. This faith involved the worship of a Persian God Mithra, and was popular among the Roman civil service and military.
There were many other smaller religions, including the Pagan religions of Greece and Egypt, and the mystery religions.
The Roman religion and Mithraism reserved Sunday as their day of religious observance. Many Christians were probably tempted to follow suit.
The Christians were also motivated to change the Sabbath day as a method of distancing themselves from the Jews. Two reasons were:
The Government intermittently persecuted the Jews at this time; it was safer for Christianity to be considered as a separate religion rather than as a sect of Judaism.
Relations between the Jews and Christians was hostile at this time. The early Christian church had suffered much persecution from the Jews.
In 321 CE, while a Pagan sun-worshiper, the Emperor Constantine declared that Sunday was to be a day of rest throughout the Roman Empire:
"On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for gain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost."
The Church Council of Laodicea circa 364 CE ordered that religious observances were to be conducted on Sunday, not Saturday. Sunday became the new Sabbath. They ruled: "Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day." There are many indicators in the historical record that some Christians ignored the Church's ruling. Sabbath observance was noted in Wales as late as 1115 CE. Francis Xavier was concerned about Sabbath worship in Goa, India in 1560 CE; he called for the Inquisition to set up an office there to stamp out what he called "Jewish wickedness". A Catholic Provincial Council suppressed the practice in Norway in 1435 CE.
Why and When the Weekly Sabbath was Moved
During the period 30 CE to 313 CE, Christians lived in a predominately Pagan world. There was a mosaic of Pagan religions in the Roman Empire:
The long established, official religion of the Roman Empire was Pagan. It involved worship of -- or at least nominal sacrifices to -- a pantheon of Roman deities, both Gods and Goddesses.
A strong competitor to Christianity in those days was a third religion: Mithraism. This faith involved the worship of a Persian God Mithra, and was popular among the Roman civil service and military.
There were many other smaller religions, including the Pagan religions of Greece and Egypt, and the mystery religions.
The Roman religion and Mithraism reserved Sunday as their day of religious observance. Many Christians were probably tempted to follow suit.
The Christians were also motivated to change the Sabbath day as a method of distancing themselves from the Jews. Two reasons were:
The Government intermittently persecuted the Jews at this time; it was safer for Christianity to be considered as a separate religion rather than as a sect of Judaism.
Relations between the Jews and Christians was hostile at this time. The early Christian church had suffered much persecution from the Jews.
In 321 CE, while a Pagan sun-worshiper, the Emperor Constantine declared that Sunday was to be a day of rest throughout the Roman Empire:
"On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for gain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost."
The Church Council of Laodicea circa 364 CE ordered that religious observances were to be conducted on Sunday, not Saturday. Sunday became the new Sabbath. They ruled: "Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day." There are many indicators in the historical record that some Christians ignored the Church's ruling. Sabbath observance was noted in Wales as late as 1115 CE. Francis Xavier was concerned about Sabbath worship in Goa, India in 1560 CE; he called for the Inquisition to set up an office there to stamp out what he called "Jewish wickedness". A Catholic Provincial Council suppressed the practice in Norway in 1435 CE.
Dead_Lioness
Godless
conclusion:
* Christians always have so many similarities to paganism
* Romans changed everything
* No one wants to be related to jews.
*bows*
* Christians always have so many similarities to paganism
* Romans changed everything
* No one wants to be related to jews.
*bows*
Chromatose
Squid pro quo
yup, as I said, roman empire and their paganism, always turns up to be the reason behind everything 
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