yes "fragile"...

well, yes is probably one of my least favorite 70's prog bands, but they still rock. I own CTTE and Relayer. I prefer ELP, genesis, king crimson, and pink floyd. I've never seen yes being as groundbreaking or memorable as the others. I see them more as cute.
 
CAIRATH said:
That is the best Nick Cave album.


well... it's the best selling...

i'm not saying it's not still great compared to anything that's not a nick cave album, but i think it marks the least creative period in his career. the death lyrics just didn't seem as unsettling as they'd been before, although he was obviously trying to write the scariest thing he'd ever done. but i can't stand listening to half those songs anymore because they seem so bloated and ridiculous. "o'malleys bar" was just trying way too fucking hard, and though i'd prolly do it if i was in his situation, the kylie minogue thing just really rubs my sack the wrong way. "the curse of millhaven" is the only classic song on the album, imho.

i also think it was massively sub-par artistically when compared to the album that followed it (boatmans call), that one easily making my top 3 and probably top 2 albums.
 
TylerTheNuke said:
I see them more as cute.

yes was definately the least, well, "metal" of them all, but their amazing hooks, esp. the vocal ones, and their mininal orchestration (at least compared to their contemporaries) makes them stand out for me. i like them like i like the Beach Boys, as extremely deep and well written pop music performed by people with exceptional abilites but exceptional restraint.
 
I like Murder Ballads best because it has the least amount of gospel influence on it, which is the main reason I don't like his other albums that much (though I have not heard all of them so there may be others that fit that description). As someone who isn't a fat black woman, I'm just not that big on gospel.
 
paddy loves yes they are awesome dudes jesus guys big night last night my head is pounding :kickass: :kickass: You should have seen paddy big cigar in his chops and dancing at the metal disco like his life depend on it IT was the best sight in london town for years:kickass: :kickass: :kickass: :kickass: :kickass: :kickass:
 
CAIRATH said:
I'm just not that big on gospel.

what albums have you heard?

i mean, from her to eternity is about as "gospel" as Darkthrone.

really the only blatant gospel-sounding thing in his catalogue (before the two new albums which do have an overt gospel influence) was "the witness song" on good son which was intentionally done in that style. there was a shitload of traditional blues/soul influence on the first born is dead, but with the crackling, clangy atmosphere of the album's production, it'd be hard to call it "gospel" at all.
 
Teh Grimarse said:
yes was definately the least, well, "metal" of them all, but their amazing hooks, esp. the vocal ones, and their mininal orchestration (at least compared to their contemporaries) makes them stand out for me. i like them like i like the Beach Boys, as extremely deep and well written pop music performed by people with exceptional abilites but exceptional restraint.

Well, I don't hear the extremly deep part, but it is well written. I do think they are good, I just don't see them on the same level as the others. Mabye I need to get fragile, just to be on the same page as everyone else. I just don't get it when some proghead calls close to the edge the epitome of prog rock.
 
i didn't so much mean "deep" like bob dylan deep, more like "thorough". on top of the already quite well written melodies and chord changes, there's also a sense of meticulous construction to the songs, not just a "lets play this 4 times, then this part 2 times, then..." kind of structuring. especially considering how utterly non-wanky the music is (again, when compared to other similar bands).
 
is that good or bad.

cause if bad, you should be aware of that song having been released like a decade after the band's prime.

that's like, to somewhat semi-quote my favorite movie, judging stevie wonder by "i just called to say i love you".
 
Teh Grimarse said:
is that good or bad.

cause if bad, you should be aware of that song having been released like a decade after the band's prime.

that's like, to somewhat semi-quote my favorite movie, judging stevie wonder by "i just called to say i love you".

...and that's why Stevie Wonder sucks too.
 
i just finally downloaded high quality versions of every Beatles album yesterday. i've been listening to this shit for at least 40 of the last 48 hours. right now i almost don't remember what metal sounds like, nor do i exactly care. but goddamit do i love the fucking Beatles.