Grunge is a sound, style and tecnique Alice in Chains had it. Are you confusing things because of various influences on metal after the fact of grunge ?
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The Ozzman
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ShredHeadJHJ
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I think AiC were a modern Hard Rock band for that time they exploded. "Man in the Box" wasn't a Grunge song, among many others... They were only part Grunge. I never heard STP being mentioned as Grunge, because they weren't. Also, AiC even have a page over at Metal-Archives.
alright them...... lets try this
more metal as compared to what metal band prior to '92? - Maiden, Metallica, Queesnryche, Megadeth, Testiment, Slayer, Anthrax, Savatage, ect. ect.... or some other metal band I'm less fimiliar with ?
less grungy compared to what grunge band ? Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Temple of the Dog, Nirvana ?
then we'll just ignore the fact that they were part of the Seattle grunge scene that gained commercial success
and you can tell me what grunge bands were actually grunge bands and when your done with that list, you can give me a decent musical definition of what the grunge sound was..... so as I dont continue through my life confused about the difference between metal and grunge......
more metal as compared to what metal band prior to '92? - Maiden, Metallica, Queesnryche, Megadeth, Testiment, Slayer, Anthrax, Savatage, ect. ect.... or some other metal band I'm less fimiliar with ?
less grungy compared to what grunge band ? Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Temple of the Dog, Nirvana ?
then we'll just ignore the fact that they were part of the Seattle grunge scene that gained commercial success
and you can tell me what grunge bands were actually grunge bands and when your done with that list, you can give me a decent musical definition of what the grunge sound was..... so as I dont continue through my life confused about the difference between metal and grunge......
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My favourite song by them has got to be Rooster, there's just something about that chord progression and Staley's singing that gets to me every time...such an epic track.
Thats because grunge was a like a new sound of metal combined with a revert back to more simplistic hardrock, the new sound of heavy music, it was an all new direction for commercial heavy music. It pretty much overnight as a matter of speaking replaced pop metal on the radio and in record sales. Music just changed, there was a new sound and these old metal bands didnt have it. Many threw in the towel or were showed no interest by the labels or music buying public. Maybe if one wasnt around at the time active in metal or rock listening one wouldnt understand it. We were all listening and scratching our heads, yea we liked it, it was heavy, but it was different and what did it mean? To many of us it was almost like in the song American Pie, it felt like the day the music died. This wasnt our music, this wasnt heavy metal, this didnt have fast, chunky, palm muted riffs, bouncing all over the fretboard. Insane guitar shreading. It was a bunch of simplistic 4 chord rythmns usually carried for a full measure or two. Slow beats, lots of noise. The grunge sound is easy to identify for those of us who were into metal when it came along. Alice in Chains had it. No one ever said it wasnt heavy.
Ive had the arguement with people before about STP. STP had the new sound too but according to "specifications" you cant be a grunge band if you didnt originate in Seattle around the turn of the decade. Then there was Smashing Pumpkins.... yikes! the radio station I used to listen to prior to the early 90's I couldnt stand anymore and when I wasnt home near my stereo to play real metal or blues or whatever I was in the mood for.... for the first time in my life I started listening to the country stations. I was so sick of that noisy, simplistic new sound that wasnt fun at all, it was down right depressing. I told people repeatedly, "these guys are making music out of riffs we used for a quick jam and discarded because they were bullshit and people are buying it"
Not a fan but Motley crew was every bit a part of the West Coast and consequently US metal scene. It was at that time called pop metal or commercial metal or just plain metal, not heavy metal(unless by the uneducated that were less aware or interested in the non commercial bands).
As for Rush, primarily progressive rock showing some elements that would evolve into metal, but highly influencial on youngsters growing up that would become metal musicians, especially those in progressive metal
These are just facts. Young people need to stop trying to rewrite history and terminology because their musical awareness began in '98 or '02 or whenever.
Satanstoenail
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This pretty much sums it up. They were a grunge band but definitely had elements of metal in their sound, whereas Nirvana had the whole punk thing in their sound. Pearl Jam, on the other hand, had the whole gay thing in their sound...
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I don't know about Motley Crue (I'm 23 so I don't know how they affected the 80's really & I never cared to research it) but I know Rush are very influential to many modern Prog Metal bands. They were like prototype Prog Metal. M-A says they accept bands that were very influential on any real metal scene.
You can call AiC Grunge, but they were a lot less Grungey than a lot of those big 90s Grunge bands. I don't want to rewrite history. I personally just hear more Hard Rock as opposed to Grunge in their sound.
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AIC were awesome(RIP Layne Staley),this was perhaps some of the best and darkest music to hit the mainstream population IMO
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Pearl Jam, on the other hand, had the whole gay thing in their sound...
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Agreed...but I can say that about a good 95% of their songs. I'm a fanboy if you couldn't tell.
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agreed. cantrell said that their sound came from black sabbath and blues stuff and they were also influenced by the sound of circus of power
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