American South no longer politically relevant; some report hearing Old Yeller howl

[S<issors]

BTW, I am an independant and would have voted Ron Paul had he stayed in the race. In case anyone is curious of whatever political balls I lick.

Aaaaand your argument suddenly loses all integrity

 

[Death Aflame]

The neocons will never be happy..because they still watch reruns of 'Leave it to Beaver". I'm glad conservatism is almost dead in America

Don't kid yourself.

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

Of course it would. In general, black people not liking white people do so from a reasonable position: they were enslaved by them for hundreds of years and continued to face discrimination thereafter. Hell, this sort of thing isn't even that 'ancient' if you look at how they were treated during Catrina, for instance.

This same justification cannot be transposed to the white population, ever (not that it isn't abused in many cases by the 'victims').

Hopefully all of this is painfully obvious to you, but after reading your initial comment I seem to think it may not be.

That's an entirely other thread, but since you're realllllllly trying to spin me this way I'll entertain you.

Florida is not exactly full to the brim of noble civil rights leaders. When it comes to race issues, it's full of redneck racists and gangsta-thug type racists. Whites and blacks respectively. The latter group for the most part are laughably displaced from any original idea of the whys and hows of equal rights and only serve to self-segregate themselves in everything they do, and their numbers are enormous. Is *that particular thing* better? It doesn't seem so to me. But keep spinning it if you like.

 

[Einherjar86]

I seriously think that the Republican party needs to somehow merge or align itself with the Libertarian party. It's losing moderates with all its hardcore conservative leanings. McCain lost so much when he nominated Palin and began adopting strict conservative "regional" policies for his campaign platform. Many republicans need to realize that we're living in a progressive age and can still be economically conservative without letting Christian ideals dominate our politics. In fact, most conservatives don't even realize that their Christian beliefs completely conflict with their economic policies; Christian doctrines frown upon individual ambition. They should either start being charitable and merciful with their money like their beliefs tell them to, or they should recognize that people have the right to be individuals in the modern world and thus pursue their own endeavors and leave others to their own decisions. The latter is the logical choice.

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

The neocons will never be happy..because they still watch reruns of 'Leave it to Beaver". I'm glad conservatism is almost dead in America

Thank you for making an example. Just so you know, conservatism is not the same as neo-conservatism, especially as most of our newer generation has seen it.

 

[Death Aflame]

Florida is not exactly full to the brim of noble civil rights leaders. When it comes to race issues, it's full of redneck racists and gangsta-thug type racists. Whites and blacks respectively. The latter group for the most part are laughably displaced from any original idea of the whys and hows of equal rights and only serve to self-segregate themselves in everything they do, and their numbers are enormous. Is *that particular thing* better? It doesn't seem so to me. But keep spinning it if you like.

Note that I never said either position (i.e. misplaced black to white racism or traditional white to black racism) was better than the other--they are both equally unsettling. However, this is only the case on a conceptual or theoretical level, as no doubt the sheer numbers of white to black/other minority racism far outnumbers (not to mention that history also dwarfs this 'perspective') the extremely marginalized, ignorant minority groups, thus giving it (i.e. white-based racism) far more precedence or importance in the overall discourse.

I also ask that you please keep in mind that I did acknowledge that this position or ideology of 'white discontent' could be abused and misused by others in my earlier post.

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

Ok.

I want to say, I'm also slightly defensive when speaking on that particular topic because of just what you mentioned, that historically there is a much wider margin of white-black hatred, and that combined with the fact that most people who don't live here think that's just how white people roll here thanks to that legacy and the popular media image. I know I can't be the only one that feels like they need to look over their shoulder whenever discussing any form of racism which is not white-black for fear of an ironic rebuttal.

 

[cookiecutter]

I think an old white southern man may be the worst human being in America.

This is a little dated but still a good read: http://fuckthesouth.com/

 

[cookiecutter]

Also fuck the south. WE WON!

 

[zabu of nΩd]

The War of Northern Aggression

 

[Cythraul]

This is a little dated but still a good read: http://fuckthesouth.com/

That's really obnoxious.

 

[MasterOLightning]

That's really obnoxious.

You think? It's not like they didn't cite things. I might agree that bringing up the founders is pretty irrelevant to our current situation. And the article doesn't even make the best arguments possible, but nothing about it was false, per se.

 

[Cythraul]

You think? It's not like they didn't cite things. I might agree that bringing up the founders is pretty irrelevant to our current situation. And the article doesn't even make the best arguments possible, but nothing about it was false, per se.

I wouldn't really want to get into whether any of this person's claims are false or not. That's not why I found it obnoxious anyway. I just don't like the tone of it. Every other word is 'fuck' or 'fucking'. He/she sounds like some annoying kike throwing a tantrum. It's the kind of thing only campus liberal types enjoy reading...while they pat each other on the back and simultaneously jerk each other off.

 

[skeptik]

Way to completely miss the point. I honestly have no idea why you're taking it entirely the wrong way.

 

[Dak]

Hell, this sort of thing isn't even that 'ancient' if you look at how they were treated during Catrina, for instance.

(It's Katrina) and I really question how much sympathy can you have for people (black or white) lacking the simple intelligence to NOT live below sea level next to the fucking sea.

 

[S<issors]

That's really obnoxious.

Yeah. Annoyingly written.

 

[cookiecutter]

I wouldn't really want to get into whether any of this person's claims are false or not. That's not why I found it obnoxious anyway. I just don't like the tone of it. Every other word is 'fuck' or 'fucking'. He/she sounds like some annoying kike throwing a tantrum. It's the kind of thing only campus liberal types enjoy reading...while they pat each other on the back and simultaneously jerk each other off.

This was just after Bush won again after marshaling all the self righteous rednecks to vote for him. It's understandable that the author would be pissed.

 

[Cythraul]

Way to completely miss the point.

And what point would that be? How am I missing the point by finding this piece of writing obnoxious?

I honestly have no idea why you're taking it entirely the wrong way.

In what way am I supposed to take it? I don't know what context it was written in, but if what cookiecutter said is true, then it's a little bit less obnoxious...I guess.

 

[cookiecutter]

The date at the top is November 3rd 2004 and election day was November 2nd, 2004

 

[Cythraul]

Cool.