...and America reformed health care.

We're fucked... I am actually ashamed to be a part of a generation that voted these cock sucking pieces of shit in DC into office.

So, everyone gets health care. Nice. Let's give everyone housing too, AND a car.
 
basically all adults will be required to have health insurance...if you don't have it, they fine you - presumably on your taxes or something

OTOH, those who make less than i think $80k/yr. will get some sort of subsidy to counteract being required to pay a premium

i think it also expands some medicair/medicaid coverage, and also prevents insurance companies from denying coverage for pre-existing conditions

of course they could have changed a bunch of it since the last time i really checked into it, but i do know for a fact that there is NO universal health care plan in this bill!
 
basically all adults will be required to have health insurance...if you don't have it, they fine you - presumably on your taxes or something

OTOH, those who make less than i think $80k/yr. will get some sort of subsidy to counteract being required to pay a premium

i think it also expands some medicair/medicaid coverage, and also prevents insurance companies from denying coverage for pre-existing conditions

of course they could have changed a bunch of it since the last time i really checked into it, but i do know for a fact that there is NO universal health care plan in this bill!

Yeah that pretty much sums it up from what I've heard recently - although I'm still not sure anyone has ever read any of these bills.
 
shit the congressmen who vote on legislation never read any of it

you think those dudes have time to sit and pore over 10,000+ page bills?

they have aides who read the shit for them, and condense it down to a 1-2 pg. summary

this is why this country is so fucked...language gets inserted into these laws that nobody ever even realizes is there, aside from the special interest groups and corporations who pay to have said language introduced
 
shit the congressmen who vote on legislation never read any of it

you think those dudes have time to sit and pore over 10,000+ page bills?

they have aides who read the shit for them, and condense it down to a 1-2 pg. summary

this is why this country is so fucked...language gets inserted into these laws that nobody ever even realizes is there, aside from the special interest groups and corporations who pay to have said language introduced

The IRS tax code is over 54,000 pages. That's a stack of papers over 17 feet high. The Senate health care bill is over 2,000 pages, on top of all of what's already in Medicare and Medicaid. I agree, our system is a fuckwad of bureaucratic nightmare bullshit. Some more transparency and a greater simplification of our system could go a long way - but its in our politicians best interests to keep us ignorant and believing the constant stream of news snippets we hear every day.
 
I wish they would have just introduced some much needed competition. Think about it, you can pretty much go to any company that provides insurance for your car, but you get like 1-5 shitty options for health from your employer? Also, government run health care in America is horse shit (the stuff that already exists anyway).
 
Not when Dr.'s start refusing patience with this plan - it's already happening in certain states with their Medicaid programs.

Yep. It's because it's a pain in the ass to deal with because of all the stupid government regs. You know someone with MR (mental retardation). Has to prove they are retarded every 2 years? Medicaid says so.