Black @ Metal

The only time I give any thought to such things is when an acquaintance of mine (who, sadly, gives thought to such things all day long) says, "Dude, you have to check out this awesome black metal band!" and I feel the need to ask him to clarify whether he means a "black... metal band" or a "black metal... band". (I'm far more likely to follow up on a recommendation of the former than the latter.)
 
Genius Gone Insane said:
Hey, dude, sorry to bust your balls but Oakland is

NOT

a majority of black folks.

There are more whites than blacks in Oakland.

well, there's a lot of black people in oakland at least.

this is what wikipedia says about the Demographic of oakland:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland%2C_CA#Demographics

As of the censusGR2 of 2000, there were 399,484 people, 150,790 households, and 86,402 families residing in the city. The population density was 7,126.6/mi² (2,751.4/km²). There were 157,508 housing units at an average density of 2,809.8/mi² (1,084.8/km²). The racial makeup of the city was 35.66% African American, 31.29% White, 0.66% Native American, 15.23% Asian-American, 0.50% Pacific Islander, 11.66% from other races, and 4.98% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 21.89% of the population. The African-American population has been shrinking since the mid-80s, while the Latino population has been growing. Oakland is one of the most ethnically diverse and integrated cities in the country.[11]
 
KeithRT99 said:
well, there's a lot of black people in oakland at least.

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"My mom says there's a lot of black people in Africa."
 
That data is 6 years old. As of 2006, there are more whites here.

I wouldn't be tripping on this but I've heard that so many times how 'black' Oakland is when it's just as white as most cities. As if there's anything wrong with having a lot of black folks (oh, wait, check that, let's pray we don't have a hurricane here). It's been like that for years, people coming up saying, "you're from oakland? but you're white" haha bullshit. I'm just sick of hearing that. Sorry to go off there.
 
scorpio01169 I get the same sh*t sometimes.. I'm not black, I'm spanish (1/2 cuban & 1/2 peruvian) and live in FL.. people around my town (WPB) give me a sh*ty face when I tell them what music I'm into... yeah I hear the cliches "thats white people music" .. It's just ignorance, don't pay attention. It's funny tho considering in south america there are legions of metal fans!
 
Black, White, Orange, Green, Red... it really doesn't matter. The whole "race" thing means absolutely nothing to me. We all come from the same damn planet and have all evolved from the same primordial ooze. That makes us all brothers and sisters in my book.

Muttley
 
hey this is an interesting thread, not because race or color matters, but because it's something so taboo and doesn't get discussed often. I think metal unites people regardless of what their background is, cus when u enter the pit, you can't see who the fuck is hitting you and you don't care! I am a very open minded person but i would have to say the drummer from suffocation always stood out in my mind because hes not only one of the few original death metal players who was black, but also because hes one of the best drummers i've ever heard. also the drummer from this band deadwater drowning ( www.myspace.com/deadwaterdrowning ) has a badass drummer who's also a brother. not to mention, the new band that i'm starting up with my friends features an all white band with a big jamaican dude singing. we are called "upper dec" and we plan to start touring this summer.

if it rocks, it rocks. . . :rock:
 
Kazrog said:
One thing I haven't heard of is black people playing black metal. That would be pretty shweeet. I mean, how "black" can these silly Norwegians be anyway?

"Mothafuckin' devil commin' down on yo street, gonna kick your fuckin' ass, gonna stab you in yo fuckin' neck, Joe."
 
DSS3 said:
"Mothafuckin' devil commin' down on yo street, gonna kick your fuckin' ass, gonna stab you in yo fuckin' neck, Joe."


yea thats basically what our lyrics look like! lol

"fuck ya cliq son ill shit on you" <--- one of our lyrics

**oh let me note that we are NOT a rap metal band by any stretch, we sound more like in flames, bodom, amon amarth etc.
 
I never even knew race was an issue in metal. Ignorance? Probably. Either that or I'm naive and just ignore it. There isn't a large metal scene around these parts, so I don't really get a chance to meet other metal fans.

It does slighly anger me at the thought of it though. How do I put this eloquently:

Fuck those racist motherfuckers.
 
stringy_ said:
I never even knew race was an issue in metal. Ignorance? Probably. Either that or I'm naive and just ignore it. There isn't a large metal scene around these parts, so I don't really get a chance to meet other metal fans.

It does slighly anger me at the thought of it though. How do I put this eloquently:

Fuck those racist motherfuckers.

believe or not racism does exist in metal...i've heard some metal heads say why do black people get into our music we dont invade theirs..but thats only the ignorant metal heads. for the most part everyone in the scene has been really cool, but the one thing that does annoy me is sometimes when my band plays when we get off stage peeps come up to me and say " for a black guy you play bad ass metal "
 
I have to say: If you look like the dude in Scars of Tomorrow, please stay away from metal.

That guy cracks me up so badly. Emo comb-over hair, sideways hat, tight ass button up mets jersey, big gold chains, tight jeans, timbaland boots.
 
EDIT: Paragraphs are good... now all I need is to write sentences longer than most people's paragraphs...

That's really pretty sad, I got into metal because there was just no way, it seemed, for it to be spoiled by the self-righeous fucks who polarized and had expectations of that kind. It seems that when black people were such a large part of the jazz counter-culture, and then when a bunch of pasty-asses stole Southern music and wussed it down for rock, it was because the 'negg-er-oes' were demonizing culture, but when you turn around and you have metal being the demonization of culture (and rap just being people who should be in jail, not a threat to culture but just convenience and safety), not just with superficial things like the PMRC and the backwards record suicide bits but with a whole backlash against this offshoot of black music primarily engaged by white Americans as a result of what a bunch of Brits were doing, you wonder (1) how people can be so confused about what race and culture they hate and (2) how these new demons can further demonize amongst themselves.

I'll put this out in the open - I hate everyone equally, all the fucks young and old, regardless of race, sex, or origin - and I think that a real part of being that way (or, if you're not an asshole, not treating differently people of different race, sex, or origin) is being able to look at what your alternatives are and why bigotry is still so popular, and I've never been able to put a finger on what it is about metal that allows it to be this split- and counter-culture and at the same time begin to develop, to a large degree, the culture and attitude that it was supposedly developing against. I wish I could figure it out, because it's always been fascinating how this stuff plays out, but I will say that at the very least people who act up as racist assholes at metal shows around San Antonio will often get the shit kicked out of them for it, whether they're white, black, or anywhere in between, so there's some self-policing and a large portion of the people I wind up around are totally in support of that.

I won't say anything about Jada Pinko-whateverthefuckitis because I haven't heard enough of the stuff to care and I consider the whole Ozzfest fiasco to be simply disgusting and disgraceful at this point, but I don't personally think the real problem with that band was the fact that she was black but that she was seen as someone just looking for self promotion of some sort, or a fun little hobby, with a rich sugar daddy to pay her way in and a few more toys to play with, and I'd certainly hope that race wasn't the issue (with Blabbermouth you never know, finding opinions at that place is like trying to count ice cubes in a blender). All I can say is, if you play well you're fucking metal, period, end of discussion, because metal has enough shit to worry about as a group in itself to be segregated based on what it's supposed to escape.

Jeff
 
scorpio01169 said:
believe or not racism does exist in metal...i've heard some metal heads say why do black people get into our music we dont invade theirs..but thats only the ignorant metal heads. for the most part everyone in the scene has been really cool, but the one thing that does annoy me is sometimes when my band plays when we get off stage peeps come up to me and say " for a black guy you play bad ass metal "

Yeah, I guess I just don't get out much...so I've never seen it. I'm pretty isolated in my own little metal world way out here in the middle of nowhere.

Those little ignorant punks don't really matter, they won't do anything in their life that even warrants their existance. It's a real shame that this shit has to show itself.
 
scorpio01169 said:
i've heard some metal heads say why do black people get into our music we dont invade theirs

But it does happen, white guys rap as well, such as Eminem. Music is for everyone, sure it's a less common thing to find a black guy who's into metal. But shit, there's so many white guys into rap and hip hop, especially in England. It's like I don't like Sepultura since Derek joined, not because he's black, but simply because I don't think he did the band any favours, and I think Max kicks his ass. But some people think I don't like them now, because Derek is black. But that also clears up what SocialNumb said about South American metal fans, Sepultura being Brazilian.
 
hey Jbroll im in San Antonio too, and its funny you say what you said about that. i went to a D.R.I. concert in the late 80's and it was cool at first till about two skinheads came in shouting white power and about 25 what they call SHARPS beat the shit out of them...at the time i didnt know what a SHARP was, but got to find out pretty quick.