First thing first, I'm hardly upset reading anything you guys say about the band. When I first came here, I was, but after knowing you and how things go here, it all changed. It's actually what I expect now, and I can make snarky comments when someone says "IF sucks" for the 1000th time. There is a line though, when I just have to question whether you guys are serious or just still doing the same circlejerk. For example, bashing Anders' voice. First, it was among the routine hate-comments about the band, but when footages surfaced during their festival tour where he sang better and better, and some of you still kept saying the same shit over and over again, I had to chip in with an "are you for real?" I'm a credits where it's due guy.
I like the band, I like Anders, but you blow things out of proportion all the time. Do you want me to give an honest answer to the question whether I got mad in this thread while reading "IF sucks" materials? I'm sorry, but no - if anything, I felt burdened and dumb at the same time for trying to hoard some people to the middle. All I wanted to achieve is to get a hold on blind and mindless hate, and I would've done the same if someone were to be on the opposite side. Change name, IF stopped being IF when Jesper left, blahblah.... you, yes YOU know that those statements are bull freakin' shit. You see, I either exaggerate on purpose, when I'm bashing something while mainly trying to entertain, like saying "wow, Coldplay is the biggest piece of shit band ever, I could make better music with my ears chopped off" OR I seriously want to discuss something, then I refrain from these stupid statements. Jesper was in every single since 2000 as well, and Darth Jester says those records suck, then he says when Jesper left IF stopped existing. I don't have to be a modern IF-fan to see that paradox right there.
OK. Lets say this. It can affect your mood or your way of behaving during those episodes. But it won't affect yourself as a person, it won't change the way you are, unless you're living some extreme depressive person. You cannot know if you never lived with one, but you just tend to learn to let pass those episodes.
If you are young it does affect you, just not in a straight line, ie. it's not like mom or dad is depressed which equals child will change. It's a bit more complicated than that, but in the end, it will change you.
And don't forget we were also talking about a working relationship. You have to throw ideas around, you have to get on the stage, and you have to mash together, otherwise, it will become hell for the whole band. I suppose you heard about bands and members where someone acted like a dick for example and it just ruined the mood for everyone. I'm not saying you can't be a famous musician in a band if you suffer from depression, but it is definitely not easy. Axel Rose would've been kicked off ages ago if his departure wouldn't have meant the end of Guns n Roses, because otherwise, no one would put up with his shit.
Ok. let's reach an agreement. I will let you call me whatever prejudices you have about spaniards if you let me call you fascist or christian fundamentalist or to think that you just run on the streets of Budapest hitting on the war refugees.
See, when you are this rigid, you sound about as fun as a stone when you get all worked up on things like this. It was all in good fun, you could've called me whatever as well, and you give me this prejudice bullshit. Maybe the age difference, who knows, but my apologies for trying to sew some fun into this back and forth.
See? You just used the conditional twice. Desperation? For real? Do you really think that all depressive people is desperate people?
See what? First I used "possible" which means it was just an assumption. Then I indirectly state dtwo things: 1. he had an alcohol problem which we all know it's true 2. he was desperate. If you don't like thata adjective, go into your local bar for every night for a month and observe the people there who go there every night, gets shitfaced and somehow get home. Tell me then whether desperate or happy are the adjective which is closer describing them. Addiction and desperation walk hand in hand; even if you don't reach out to an addiction in desperation, like trying out drugs because it's "fun" and "cool", you will become desperate for them.
And in that sentence I also made an assumption that he might had other problems is well, and IF so, he would've been better off with "just" alcohol.
Ok, since you said a lot of things that are wrong, I must asume that you don't know anything about depression unless you say that you lived or live with someone with the ilness or that you have the illness and then you're talking from experience.
I pretty much said this three times already, but at this point, I might as well scan and upload this person's psychological evaluation, I'd still be questioned,
haha*.
*talk about that later on
Do you think that you didn't deserve it? With your superior attitude, with your comments, and then with how upset you get about critics to the band... You deserve it. I'm a moron and I am stupid, but I know both things. You come thinking that you're giving lessons to people but you sound like a spoiled brat.
I addressed "being upset about critics to the band" at the beginning, so won't talk about it more. I really don't care. If you want to make me upset, criticize NIN, cats or Lost.
As for deserving it... that is a very good question. Can I deserve it? For sure, I make a habit of walking on people's nerves. Do I deserve it, though? That's a bit harder to answer, because the way I see it, I fight fire with fire. Yes, I use strawmaning and hyperboles and what not, which is basically the same thing I was complaining about, which is attacking the person insted of the statements, but, probably given by my superiority, I don't care about ridiculous outbursts like Darth Jester's. You can call me out for doing those things, or being mean with him (is he autistic? probably not. is he really a dumb person? how could i know), or arrogant, but almost everything he said was mind-blowingly dull. What he was doing is flame-baiting which, on stricter boards is actually bannable.
I value putting things to their right place way higher, than being nice to people who act like an idiot. Say In Flames and/or Anders sucks ass and they should retire, that's perfectly fine. But keep saying things which even contradict themselves, and then don't be surprised by whatever comes after that.
No, you're not a girl, but you talk like a girl
I eat like a girl and throw tantrums like a girl. I'm the very definition of a drama queen. *snaps fingers*
I'm far more harsh in person, I learned to be that way with my friends. We are very rude people.
And I'm far more comfortable around my friends, because they know me, so I don't have to worry about being misinterpret, or think twice about what to say. They know I'm an "asshole", so they expect nothing less than cynicism and sarcasm flying around from me. I'm also a good listener and can be serious if need to, without sugarcoating a single thing. I don't have a motto, but saying exactly what's on your heart would be a good contestant for it.
Again acting like a child while trying to sound serious.l
*No, I'm joking around. It's what I do. You talk about maturing, well, I never ever wanted to mature. I like fun, I like making people laugh, and being super-duper serious is my very last resort. You say I'm acting like a child, I say I added "haha", because if I did not, it would've sounded way too mean and serious. While I do think this thread was an abomination from the start, and DJ's post are created by some
random post generator, I liked how at least he realized your ridiculous mocking attempt about my assumed age, so I lightened up my sentence.
In other words, I deliberately tried
not to sound too serious.
I'm going to be serious for once. When I read your posts, you remind me of my brother. He is so paid of himself, he thinks that he knows everything, that he is the smartest person ever, and the most underrated, so he likes to speak and write with the tone that you do sometimes, like if people is in debt with him for showing us his superiority. In the end he is just an arrogant man who is running out of friends, but he is blaming the rest of the world, instead of blaming himself.
Isn't it fascinating how we are the most complex creatures on Earth by far, yet you only need like one or two hours talking with someone, and you can pretty much reconstruct like... 60% of his/her past life? Who you become once you
gain control over yourself is basically decided by your upbringing. It's not a life-long excuse, of course, you can form yourself from that point, but you are and will always work what you've been left with. You say I'm a spoiled brat, and surprise-surprise, I do not have any brothers or sisters. Who would have thought, right?
And the list could go on. You know your brother, you pretty much see behind him, and the cross-conclusions about me are not that far off either. But it doesn't mean much, when we are discussing the actual content of what me or your brother is saying. Knowing this might give you an advantage over me, knowing which strings to pull to set me off - though you did not really do that, yet -, but even if I am a spoiled, arrogant asshole, it has absolutely nothing to do with whether I am right or not.
Change that. You're only 22 or 23, I don't remember exactly. I'm gonna tell you clearly. You did not matured at 14, no one does mature at 14, no one is mature at 20, or at 30. You think that you are a very mature and smart person and that is why we (some of us) are being moron with you. No, it's your attitude. But you still have time. Make some laughs, accept the reprimends (as we all do), don't think that you know everything (no one does)
I'm turning 24 on the 19th this month. My attitude is probably due to some changes, but it's awfully hard not to feel superior, when I turn on the TV and I see tens of thousands of morons. Then I go to my facebook, and people are discussing the most retarded shit about the migrant situation. And I'm just watching out of my head, and wondering "what if I am the idiot for not wanting to machine gun down everyone?" Then I come here, and people jump from one hyperbole to the other one, meanwhile my MP4 player has literally every kind of music on it, except country and classical. So I'm wondering, "Am I an idiot for not being overzealous?" Yes, I like Siren Charms but I listen to old IF as well. I also don't mind people hating on SC, or stating that TJR is their favorite, like whatever.
Do you know what I see everywhere? A whole bunch of entitlement. Me, me, me, everywhere is me. I deserve this, I deserve that; people trampling over one another, people not being grateful to anything they get, because they always want more, they always complain. Honestly, I'm sick of it. The finest example of an exception is only4theweak's posts - well, some of them.
Now, think about what I've said and try to think why some people is bashing you the way they're doing.
Being the underdog is where I'm most comfortable at, so I don't mind. Also, these flaws have their advantages as well. I'd be at some serious crossroads if a little fairy came down to me right now, offering to remove some of my traits. Isn't the most fearsome thing is to become... boring? To lose identity? Who knows what keeps me from being one of those barking dogs on social media? Right now I'm a sometimes fucking annoying, but at least interesting nut to crack.