Classical music...

[Trylakos]

bah Igor is awesome. I like:

Phillip Glass, Debussy, John Adams, Shostokovich, William Mckinnley, Bartok, and probably more

 

[radiobabe]

how much do you guys know about composers from other than their music? do you read biographies, or memoirs, books, essays etc. that they've written themselves? i haven't really done much of this but i bet it could give one a much different view of their work

Well, I had a class on the history of opera and the history of instrumentation. Plus I wrote a thesis about Edvard Grieg.

 

[MFJ]

Ken, how about that classical mix?

 

[Trylakos]

Well, I had a class on the history of opera and the history of instrumentation. Plus I wrote a thesis about Edvard Grieg.

Grieg Ist Krieg

 

[KILL TULLY]

Eh, classical music is pretty lame. Stick-up-their-ass deluxe I say. I used to think I liked it, but I don't really.

I mean I can dig some, especially when "classical" music goes into the realm of just folk music from the renaisance/medieval time, because I like that a lot.

I like the peoples music more then the music of the upper-class, mostly.


Everything about classical music is stuffy and set-in-stone. That is lame.

 

[Trylakos]

Eh, classical music is pretty lame. Stick-up-their-ass deluxe I say. I used to think I liked it, but I don't really.

I mean I can dig some, especially when "classical" music goes into the realm of just folk music from the renaisance/medieval time, because I like that a lot.

I like the peoples music more then the music of the upper-class, mostly.


Everything about classical music is stuffy and set-in-stone. That is lame.

good point. I don't like a lot of the really pompous stuff, but there is some really good stuff out there.

 

[Dick Sirloin]

Eh, classical music is pretty lame. Stick-up-their-ass deluxe I say. I used to think I liked it, but I don't really.

I mean I can dig some, especially when "classical" music goes into the realm of just folk music from the renaisance/medieval time, because I like that a lot.

Ergo your taste is inferior

Everything about classical music is stuffy and set-in-stone. That is lame.

Ummmm... Ever heard Stravinsky? Schoenberg? Bartok? Any genre that includes Handel*, Schoenberg*, Beethoven* and Vivaldi HAS to be broad as hell... none of those dudes sound anything alike. The people who think all classical music is "a bunch of violins" and "all sounds the same" simply don't know what they are talking about.

*I really like Germans

I like the peoples music more then the music of the upper-class, mostly.

You fucking commie

 

[KILL TULLY]

Ummmm... Ever heard Stravinsky? Schoenberg? Bartok?

Yes, I have. I used to pretend to like classical music, like I said.

I'm not saying it all sounds the same, I'm saying it is stuffy, and set-in-stone. That does'nt mean "ZOMG IT ALL SOUNDS HTE SAMAMAMEE!" It meens that composers follow rules and especially, performers follow rules. There is no classical music jam sessions, no rowdy pub drinking, no fun and free dancing (even the dances in classical music are set-in-stone with set patterns and moves). Its stupid. No soul what-so-ever. Jazz was considered blasphemy at the begining, as they did watever-the-fuck they felt like, and did it with soul. This literally scared the classical wankers, so they lashed out against it, saying it wasn't even music. Fuckin' stuck-up wimps.

Much of classical compositions where contracted, as you probobly know being uber-fan and all that, so they definitly had to follow certain regulations.

 

[En Vind Av Sorg]

I disagree about classical music not having soul. Some of the most moving peices I have heard in music have come from utterly genius classical arrangements. Vivaldi's "Four Seasons" has more heart and soul put into it than pretty much anything I've ever heard. Composers like Vivaldi and Paganini were totally beyond most of there contemporaries though anyway. Again, its all about preference. I listen to alot of Jazz and Fusion, but my training in music history and theory has led me to appreciate many more genres than I once did.

 

[KILL TULLY]

I disagree about classical music not having soul. Some of the most moving peices I have heard in music have come from utterly genius classical arrangements. Vivaldi's "Four Seasons" has more heart and soul put into it than pretty much anything I've ever heard. Composers like Vivaldi and Paganini were totally beyond most of there contemporaries though anyway. Again, its all about preference. I listen to alot of Jazz and Fusion, but my training in music history and theory has led me to appreciate many more genres than I once did.

Maybe the composer put his heart and soul into the piece, but the performers of classical music are just computers interpretting input from a programmer.

 

[Reign in Acai]

Yes, I have. I used to pretend to like classical music, like I said.

I'm not saying it all sounds the same, I'm saying it is stuffy, and set-in-stone. That does'nt mean "ZOMG IT ALL SOUNDS HTE SAMAMAMEE!" It meens that composers follow rules and especially, performers follow rules. There is no classical music jam sessions, no rowdy pub drinking, no fun and free dancing (even the dances in classical music are set-in-stone with set patterns and moves). Its stupid. No soul what-so-ever. Jazz was considered blasphemy at the begining, as they did watever-the-fuck they felt like, and did it with soul. This literally scared the classical wankers, so they lashed out against it, saying it wasn't even music. Fuckin' stuck-up wimps.

Much of classical compositions where contracted, as you probobly know being uber-fan and all that, so they definitly had to follow certain regulations.

 

[MFJ]

manbearpig

 

[KILL TULLY]

Its not my fault that I'm right.


Folk in all its forms >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>x239847293847 classical



Sorry I'm not a pompous wankstain .

 

[MajestikMøøse]

Sometimes you're hilarious Tully.

Never change, ok?

 

[Dick Sirloin]

I'm not saying it all sounds the same, I'm saying it is stuffy, and set-in-stone.

If you knew anything about Stravinsky or Schoenberg, you know that these guys were the biggest blasphemers in music because they fully rejected classical forms and scales. Mozart and Beethoven did the same thing, moving away from Baroque formalities.

It meens that composers follow rules and especially, performers follow rules.

Much of classical compositions where contracted, as you probobly know being uber-fan and all that, so they definitly had to follow certain regulations.

NOTHING like the rock industry today, right?

Oh yeah, there were no "beer swilling" songs. Lets face it: classical music is written and performed by virtuosos, by people who have spent their entire lives cultivating their talent. Mozart was a piano phenom before he was 10. Bach wrote "Toccata and Fugue" in his 20s. These were people with UNGODLY talents and wrote complex music. Back in those times, when people grew weary of high-brow music, they turned to popular songs and ballads, much like you can turn to AC/DC today.

Its stupid. No soul what-so-ever.

Gay and lying to the fullest degree. Handel's Messiah, Bach's St. Matthew Passion and Faure's Requiem (to name a few) have 5 billion times the emotion of all your crappy thrash bands. And that is a fact

 

[KILL TULLY]

If you knew anything about Stravinsky or Schoenberg, you know that these guys were the biggest blasphemers in music because they fully rejected classical forms and scales. Mozart and Beethoven did the same thing, moving away from Baroque formalities.

NOTHING like the rock industry today, right?

Good thing we arn't talking about the rock industry in any way shape or form. The rock industry today is just as lame.

Oh yeah, there were no "beer swilling" songs. Lets face it: classical music is written and performed by virtuosos, by people who have spent their entire lives cultivating their talent. Mozart was a piano phenom before he was 10. Bach wrote "Toccata and Fugue" in his 20s. These were people with UNGODLY talents and wrote complex music.

Well to some peopl technical tallent does not = good music, at all.

Folk music is performed by people that "spend their entire lifes cultivating their tallent" because their tallent comes from their lives, everything about it is translated into the music that they make, every hole they had to dig or tree they had to plant, farm they had to tend, every piece of coal they had to mine, etc. etc. is translated into their ballads and "beer swilling songs".

That is soul, not somone stuffed up in a room practicing arpeggios and scales all day long.

have 5 billion times the emotion of all your crappy thrash bands.

I'm comparing folk music to classical, not Thrash Metal to classical. This isn't about metal, or rock.

 

[Dick Sirloin]

Folk music is performed by people that "spend their entire lifes cultivating their tallent" because their tallent comes from their lives, everything about it is translated into the music that they make, every hole they had to dig or tree they had to plant, farm they had to tend, every piece of coal they had to mine, etc. etc. is translated into their ballads and "beer swilling songs".

You ARE a commie!

 

[Reign in Acai]

By commie you mean "idiot" right?

 

[KILL TULLY]

Horrible responses. Clearly the final death throws of the defeated.

 

[Dick Sirloin]

OK, you won. Classical music sucks. I'll cut my losses and regroup for the next discussion

*throes