Controversial opinions on metal

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Fascinating. Since you just compared identifying as a different gender to the sex you were born as with being schizophrenic, do you also feel the same way about people who don't identify as straight? Do they have deep rooted mental issues and suffer from cognitive delusions?

Homosexuality and supposed transgenderism are not comparable. Homosexuality is an aberrant, but healthy result of certain nature and nurture factors coagulating, and doesn't result in anything pernicious to the gay person themself. Gender dysphoria is a clear cut mental neurosis, the result of which is the mistaken perception that someone is not the biological sex they are.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

What the actual fuck? Absolutely none of that nonsense applies to me.

I'm not a SJW, and in fact they are part of the problem. Calling a trans woman a man to their face is absolutely abhorrent behaviour and there's no need for it. If me taking issue with that is being an SJW then whatever.

The people at the Revenge concert were probably more annoyed that they'd paid to see a shit band.

If being intellectually candid is abhorrent, then dear do we ever have a dilemma on our hands. The solution being tell the truth anyways, irrespective of someone's feelings.

 

[EchoForever]

hahahaa good answer. l think this argument ran out of legs before it got started.

idek what argument youre talking about

 

[EternalMetal]

Most of my controversial opinions tend to be related to Metallica, Slayer, and Iron Maiden, besides i assumed everyone was aware i was big into industrial and wasnt all that impressed with a lot of popular metal bands and albums particularly in the realm of death metal and black metal.

Yea, I know you like industrial, but to just go ahead and say this:

I could post some industrial I love but i know youre going to shoot it down because its not your kind of music.

Is just acting smug. I dont even think that your opinion is relevant to this topic. Basically what satanstonail said, I just thought you saying that industrial was superior to metal was just you being a pretentious dick.

Thanks for providing some examples.

 

[MrTagoMago]

Yea, I know you like industrial, but to just go ahead and say this:


Is just acting smug. I dont even think that your opinion is relevant to this topic. Basically what satanstonail said, I just thought you saying that industrial was superior to metal was just you being a pretentious dick.

Thanks for providing some examples.

I wasnt trying to be smug i was going based on experience. I only said it as a partially joking response to Elric.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Godflesh is trash. Mediocre copy of Swans, who in turn weren't even *that* great.

 

[EchoForever]

Godflesh is trash. Mediocre copy of Swans, who in turn weren't even *that* great.

youre my favorite troll
7/10, made me reply

 

[CiG]

Godflesh is trash. Mediocre copy of Swans, who in turn weren't even *that* great.

They're better than Trivium.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Trivium has better riffs.

 

[EspaDa]

Streetcleaner is good. I haven't listened to any of their albums in a long time though.

 

[MrTagoMago]

Streetcleaner is good. I haven't listened to any of their albums in a long time though.

The 30 minute self titled ep is really good.

 

[MrTagoMago]

Trivium has better riffs.

Whats your opinion on atmosphere?

 

[Phylactery]

It's a good job a lot of metal aspires to be more than just a collection of riffs or else I'd find it to be a pretty worthless genre.

I don't even know what HamburgerBoy means by "good riffs" anymore since he said that Dimmu Borgir song in the current mixtape game had sufficient quality of riffs. I found them boring.

 

[MrTagoMago]

It's a good job a lot of metal aspires to be more than just a collection of riffs or else I'd find it to be a pretty worthless genre.

I don't even know what HamburgerBoy means by "good riffs" anymore since he said that Dimmu Borgir song in the current mixtape game had sufficient quality of riffs. I found them boring.

There was an earlier post he made where he went into detail about what he means by riffs which i recall was more than youd think but i still would never agree t hats all that matters.

 

[CiG]

If you so narrowly define quality to "riffs" that it makes you like Trivium over Manilla Road and Godflesh, you have issues.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Whats your opinion on atmosphere?

It's important, but rehashing Swans with even more edginess is not atmospheric, no matter how heavy it might be. I loved Godflesh at first when I didn't know any better, but they're a great example of why most alternative metal fails. Metal bands should focus on their strengths, not tricking ignorant metalheads that think all creative works have come from metal since Black Sabbath.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

It's a good job a lot of metal aspires to be more than just a collection of riffs or else I'd find it to be a pretty worthless genre.

I don't even know what HamburgerBoy means by "good riffs" anymore since he said that Dimmu Borgir song in the current mixtape game had sufficient quality of riffs. I found them boring.

Post examples of good riffs on Streetcleaner, preferably ones that Swans didn't already do better on their first four albums.

 

[MrTagoMago]

It's important, but rehashing Swans with even more edginess is not atmospheric, no matter how heavy it might be. I loved Godflesh at first when I didn't know any better, but they're a great example of why most alternative metal fails. Metal bands should focus on their strengths, not tricking ignorant metalheads that think all creative works have come from metal since Black Sabbath.

Rehashing Swans with more edginess? What are you talking about? You say metal should focus oj its strengths but you dont say what that is and you didnt say how Godfles his tricking metal heads.

 

[CiG]

Trivium obviously have very original riffs.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Rehashing Swans with more edginess? What are you talking about? You say metal should focus oj its strengths but you dont say what that is and you didnt say how Godfles his tricking metal heads.

A few of metal's strengths are its diversity of riffs, its bombast, and its fantastical themes. Those are things you won't find to the same extent in most other genres of music, with obviously some exceptions (mostly prog and hard rock of the 70s). Stuff like Godflesh, mid-90s Century Media goth metal, etc appeal to metal fans because many metal fans are retards that won't pick up anything off of the shelf if it isn't the metal shelf. They have to be spoonfed things to try them, but craft a narrative about how playing non-metal band X's riffs with more distortion and the occasional chug, and they wolf that shit right down. Godflesh isn't even that bad or anything, Streetcleaner is decent, but man it's laughable when metalheads go "Wait, you listed a lot of industrial but you didn't even mention Godflesh or Ministry, LITERALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT INDUSTRIAL METAL BANDS, I mean really, I can't even". And I don't even like much industrial; Foetus is awesome because there are strong Alice Cooper vaudeville vibes there, and I really like some of Controlled Bleeding's non-industrial quasi-ambient/quasi-choral weird stuff, but the genre doesn't really appeal to me. Metal people regardless need to start trying the bands that influenced their pet favorite alternative metal bands.

Trivium obviously have very original riffs.

Godflesh is probably a bit more original than Trivium, although their riffs are still poorer.