Controversial opinions on metal

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Lombardo isn't shit compared to Simon Phillips

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

If you like it more than the original, you should kill yourself.

Says the guy who thought that traumatizing slayer song from their last album was good?

most covers by metal bands seem pointless at best.

Pretty much this.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

I made an account on this site to talk about and get recommendations about metal music, #disappointment

 

[no country for old wainds]

welcome to ultimate metal, i recommend you check out an evil shade of grey

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Lombardo knows like two drumming patterns and only compensates for it with massive, wanky fills (which often tend to resemble each other regardless). Slayer's a funny case for me in that while I often have faves because less liked or vice versa for albums or songs, they're a case where the most impressive instrumentation on first impressions because the least impressive on later (limiting things to 80s Araya of course). I mean, he's certainly not bad, but most of what makes the drums cool on the 86-90 albums is Rubin's production.

 

[The Ozzman]

Has TechBarb even heard Simon Phillips' drumming? Vinnie Colaiuta could run circles around Lombardo too in terms of drumming.

Seasons in the Abyss will always be my favorite Slayer record

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Has TechBarb even heard Simon Phillips' drumming?

No, i own the drumless version of Sin After Sin

edit: Hold on, im guessing you didn't even know he was the drummer on that album?

 

[The Ozzman]

No, i own the drumless version of Sin After Sin

edit: Hold on, im guessing you didn't even know he was the drummer on that album?

I knew that. That's the only metal album I know of that he's been on off hand.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

I knew that.

 

[The Butt]

Keep this going. It pleases me.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Name one Lombardo-era Slayer song with drumming that's impressive/interesting for reasons other than 1) speed 2) long bombastic drum fills. I'm not saying he's remotely bad or doesn't fit the band, and there are certain aspects of his style that are distinctive to him, but the best moments of Sin After Sin blow him away.

 

[Sirjack]

depends what you're after...solid with tasty fills...no real speed or long fills



or solid, a bit more dramatic with tasty fills...and blast beat..and tasty fills
Alex Marquez with Malevolent Creation
etc etc

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

name one song? hey Buttface, what was the facepalm count at again?

One of the best metal drummers of all time >>>> simon phillips

drums from Reign in Blood > Sin After Sin

Can you find me a list of greatest drummers that has him ahead of Lombardo? Because i can find countless ones that he's not even mentioned it.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Piece By Piece isn't really convincing me. Even Araya changes the rhythm of his vocal patterns more than Lombardo does; through the various faster riffs he basically stays on a single thrash beat until the brief portion at 1:05 where he switches to the hi-hat briefly. For the second half they give him more room for fills and they aren't even particularly good ones in that song. I mean, solid, absolutely, but it's the briefness and structure of the song that keeps it engaging. Compared to basically anything with Hoglan, for example, there's no contest.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Simon Phillips isn't really a metal drummer so obviously he's not going to be on lists of greatest metal drummers. People that make those kinds of lists usually have shit taste regardless. I'm sure on those same lists you'll find Charlie Benante as well.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

i didnt say metal lists. And no shit hes not a metal drummer ... hence my "one of the best metal drummers > him" statement.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Yeah, I'll be sure to take Rolling Stone and other pop media lists seriously.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

What bout the other thousands of lists out there?

Here's another one that i just randomly found ...
http://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-best-drummers-of-all-time

Pretty solid list if you ask me, although Krupa is a bit low imo. And Buddy Rich should be at the top 3 of any list.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

A website where fanboys can rate their favorite drummers highly. Apparently Nicko McBrain and Vinnie Paul are two of the all-time greatest drummers too, lol. I don't care how many lists you find. His drumming is actually poor on Show No Mercy, only competent on Hell Awaits, and just good on the following albums until his exit.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Ok, so im guessing no list is going to be good enough for you ... unless you yourself are the author.