Controversial opinions on metal

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Sure. But I come from a huge family so most of my cousins were a bit older than me and so I got into what they played.

That's kind of how i got started too. Had an older cousin who was leaving for the Marines and he let me borrow his tape collection until he came back.

i threw this bad boy into my trusty Sony transound, and the rest is history.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

wtf? no not metal, that's hard rock. from a shitty glam band.

i love how some people today are trying to pass all this garbage form the 80's(especially glam) off as metal, when not a single person referred to shit like that as metal when i was growing up.

Hey, nobody gives a shit about your life history, despite how technically barbaric it might be. You're such a hardass (fag).

Motley Crue's first two albums rule. Great for anyone who can appreciate a total emphasis on RIFFS that bridge between hard rock and heavy metal. Who gives a shit if they had pop sensibilities in mind? Get taste.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

iirc TechBarb is in his mid 30s or so anyways, which means he was probably eating Play-Doh when Motley Crue released Shout at the Devil.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Controversial opinion: speed metal only really became a sub-genre during the retro-era. Before that, there was hardly a speed metal album in existence, and certainly not in America (the German proto-power stuff is borderline). Speed metal is better defined as couple very particular kinds of songs, which most heavy metal bands of the 80s wrote at least a few of.

It's a sub-genre as much as 'epic metal' is. Most bands wrote epic metal songs and speed(y) metal songs, but there's little meaning in trying to define a sub-genre by either.

 

[Baroque]

Controversial opinion: speed metal only really became a sub-genre during the retro-era. Before that, there was hardly a speed metal album in existence, and certainly not in America (the German proto-power stuff is borderline). Speed metal is better defined as couple very particular kinds of songs, which most heavy metal bands of the 80s wrote at least a few of.

It's a sub-genre as much as 'epic metal' is. Most bands wrote epic metal songs and speed(y) metal songs, but there's little meaning in trying to define a sub-genre by either.

Define the retro-era?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

The mid-2000s or so. I mean there are probably rare exceptions if you dig for them, there might be an ADX album out there that's 100% fast heavy metal with nothing resembling regular trad or power, but there's actually more speed metal around now in the form of all these speed/black 80s throwback bands and whatnot.

 

[CiG]

I take speed metal to mean bands heavier and faster than traditional metal but not chuggy enough or at all to be thrash metal. It eventually just evolved into power metal I suppose.

 

[Baroque]

I mean speed metal definitely existed in the 80's. I haven't listened to much lately but the band Warhead comes to mind. Granted it wasn't a major genre like thrash but it was at least a minor genre if such a thing exists

 

[CiG]

I always thought of Exciter as the quintessential speed metal band.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Hey, nobody gives a shit about your life history, despite how technically barbaric it might be. You're such a hardass (fag).

Motley Crue's first two albums rule. Great for anyone who can appreciate a total emphasis on RIFFS that bridge between hard rock and heavy metal. Who gives a shit if they had pop sensibilities in mind? Get taste.

get English.

motely crue is musics for tossers such as yourself.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

iirc TechBarb is in his mid 30s or so anyways, which means he was probably eating Play-Doh when Motley Crue released Shout at the Devil.

Yeah im in my 30's, but i wasnt even born when that album came out. Doesn't change the fact that no one referred to motley crue as a heavy metal band when I was growing up. You know why? Because they clearly are not metal(waiting for one of you twats to post another hard rock track from them). Like i said, you delusional bastards have been pigeonholing your favorite crappy hard rock and glam bands with/as metal. That's just not how it works.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Controversial opinion: speed metal only really became a sub-genre during the retro-era. Before that, there was hardly a speed metal album in existence, and certainly not in America (the German proto-power stuff is borderline). Speed metal is better defined as couple very particular kinds of songs, which most heavy metal bands of the 80s wrote at least a few of.

It's a sub-genre as much as 'epic metal' is. Most bands wrote epic metal songs and speed(y) metal songs, but there's little meaning in trying to define a sub-genre by either.

Not really a controversy. I agree with most of this

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Are you kidding me, Kara? What you got form my post was they're not metal because no said they're metal? I was just reminding some of you retards how things were, that's all. Linking one or two heavy songs from a hard rock band means they're metal? What the fuck do i need to prove? Do you think i havent heard them or something? You know how i can tell those are hard rock albums? Because my ears work. Maybe taking off your gay glam fanboy goggles will help.

So you say you're 73 years old or whatever, but you cant seem to remember that nobody(including a shit-load of proper metal bands) considered glam to be metal? hmmmm ... i'm not so sure about you.

 

[CiG]

I thought glam metal became a thing in the mid 1980s? Not the early 80s.

Speaking of speed metal.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

... guitar wizards!

 

[CiG]

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Mötley Crüe are and most definitely were referred to as a heavy metal band.

100% wrong.

You need to prove that it's hard rock

I need to prove to you that a widely known hard rock band is actually a hard rock band? Bon jovi and poison were some killer metal bands too, right?

There is nothing heavy, or metal about them ... unlike the "large swathe of NWOBHM" bands you wanted to compare them too. They're clearly one of your favorite bands(sad) and i've ruffled some very fine feathers so im just going to drop this. But we both know you probably would have had a beer can thrown at your head in the late 80's and 90's if you showed up to a thrash or death metal show with a motley crue shirt on.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

lol

edit: a dokken shirt with a bullet belt? Hmmmm, a pink rhinestone belt along with some makeup and hairspray would have been more fitting ... no? So metal.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Bon Jovi and Poison were killer metal bands too, right?

 

[CiG]

But we both know you probably would have had a beer can thrown at your head in the late 80's and 90's if you showed up to a thrash or death metal show with a motley crue shirt on.

HellsHeadbangers.com in-house shirts. I suppose they must be clueless poseurs.

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