Controversial opinions on metal

[Phylactery]

The objectively-correct power ranking:

Any objectively correct power ranking has Slayer at the top.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Any objectively correct power ranking has Slayer at the top.

Slayer would be at the very top of the death metal power ranking, but they still can't compare to Metallica in terms of thrash itself.

 

[Phylactery]

Maybe just "extreme metal" in general? I'd say Hell Awaits had just as much influence on black metal as it did death metal. RiB is definitely more death metal orientated, though.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Sure, Slayer can be the top black metal band as well.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

From Germany, for me, it would be Sodom first, Destruction coming at an extremely close second and Kreator being third by far.

 

[CiG]

Isn't the big four specifically an American thing? Adding non-American bands to it straight off the bat seems silly to me.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

yes, big four was basically the four most popular thrash bands in the US.

Destruction should not be that high, and Overkill curbstomps Sepultura.

Twatcraft, Destruction should definitely be "that high" and the best Sepultura albums absolutely curb-stomp and annihilate the best Overkill albums. no fuckin comparison.

I tend to see more opinions of Kreator being the weakest of the big 3

Kreator has almost always been considered the best of the "Teutonic big three" by most people. I personally dont have a favorite when it comes to them. Sodom have the most albums i like, but PtK and Eternal Devastation are better than anything Sodom have done imo.

 

[Krow]

Sodom has always been my favorite without much contest. I also appreciate that they're still releasing decent music, something I don't feel like the other two are doing.

I like Kreator and try not to sell them short but I just like the whole first wave black metal evil Motörhead.

 

[EspaDa]

Thrash metal has the worst fanbase in the entire metal scene. Who the hell cares about the big four anymore?

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

The funny thing is that they probably would have been the best band of the four had they been put in that category.

Lulz

i think a big ten would be slayer, metallica, megadeth, sodom, kreator, destruction, dark angel, exodus, overkill and sepultura.

Replace Dark Angel with Testament and i think we would have the official "Big Ten" list right there.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

Lulz

Yeah, the sheer disparity between the overall quality of Overkill's discography and any one of the Big Four's is hilarious.

 

[CiG]

Most consistent maybe.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Overkill only has two eternal classics for me, Feel the Fire and Horrorscope, pretty strong discography all things considered but not the greatest. At least a few crappy albums in there too, e.g. Necroshine.

 

[CiG]

Their peaks are more flat than Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer I think.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I prefer Overkill's peaks to Slayer's peaks but only out of pure enjoyment and not objective musical significance. Hell Awaits and Reign in Blood are their most consistent albums and generally great, but even those only have maybe a couple 10/10 songs each, whereas the best Metallica and Megadeth albums (and Bonded By Blood) are at least 50% 10/10s. But that's probably because Slayer is more of an albums-band than a songs-band, fitting for a death metal band.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Destruction undoubtedly deserves placement over Sepultura.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

No, they shouldn't. I love Destruction, but they don't belong above any of the 5 bands they're placed directly over. With Sepultura and Overkill, I'd gladly put Chaos A.D. or its ilk against Ironbound or Under The Influence.

but Chaos AD isnt even a top 3 Sepultura album. Which Overkill albums would you put up against say Schizophrenia or Beneath the Remains?

Oh and those two albums are also better than anything Destruction has also done.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Most consistent maybe.

yeah. They consistently pumped out crap after crap from the 90's(post Horrorscope) all the way up to 2010, where they finally released a good album again.

Yeah, the sheer disparity between the overall quality of Overkill's discography and any one of the Big Four's is hilarious.

you are truly delusional.

 

[Baroque]

The objectively-correct power ranking:

Metallica
Slayer
Megadeth
Exodus
Celtic Frost*
Destruction
Sodom
Kreator
Voivod
Sepultura
Overkill
Anthrax
Testament
Dark Angel
Possessed
Watchtower
Coroner
Nuclear Assault**
DRI**
Suicidal Tendencies**
Artillery
Razor
Flotsam & Jetsam
Sacrifice
Holy Moses
Death Angel
Annihilator
Mekong Delta
Bulldozer
Living Death
Tankard
Sacred Reich
Messiah
Hirax
Whiplash
Deathrow
Heathen
Hallow's Eve
Onslaught

*If they count
**Somewhere around there, I can't be bothered to differentiate the three

Wtf is Anthrax doing over Dark Angel in a power ranking. Maybe popularity ranking

I'd reorder most of this list but don't feel like it atm