Controversial opinions on metal

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Immolation > Incantation

And honestly, the two great Dissection albums make Far Away From the Sun feel tame and pedestrian as fuck. It's like Dissection lite for the kiddies.

 

[The Ozzman]

Jungle Rot > Cianide

 

[Slayed Necros]

And honestly, the two great Dissection albums make Far Away From the Sun feel tame and pedestrian as fuck. It's like Dissection lite for the kiddies.

Nah. And honestly, Far Away from the Sun doesn't even sound that much like Dissection.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

not that much? So how much exactly? Just a little? 38%? Please inform me. If they sounded "THAT MUCH" like Dissection they would have been a much better band. So i kind of agree with you there.

They're basically what i said they are, a more accessible version of what Dissection was doing that is geared towards the more casual/plebeian driven tastes out there.

 

[Slayed Necros]

More accessible? I love Dissection, but you have it completely backwards.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

More accessible? I love Dissection, but you have it completely backwards.

i completely disagree. Hence me calling it pedestrian, plebeian, etc. The Somberlain makes everything they've ever done sound like background music tbh.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

I actually agree with Necros on that point. I struggle when deciding which bandis ultimately better but when it comes to deciding which is more accessible, I'd have an easier time saying that in regards to Dissection.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

define accessible music. I have a feeling you guys are misusing that word here.

Also, morts ears are finely tuned to casual/pedestrian music and he says otherwise

 

[Talos of Atmora]

define accessible music. I have a feeling you guys are misusing that word here.

Accessible as in "easier to enjoy" in this context. Less abrasive or overwhelming. Granted, some tracks on SotLB like Unhallowed and Soulreaper don't really fit that definition but tracks like Where Dead Angels Lie, Thorns of Crimson Death, Night's Blood (in some parts) do fit. It doesn't really make them bad though.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Easier to listen to. Which makes a generic, by the book and somewhat ho-hum melodic black metal album like Far Away From The Sun much more accessible. There is far more going on in any of those two Dissection albums. Don't get me wrong, that doesn't necessarily make Far Away a bad album. I give it a 4/5, and i'm being a little generous there too.

 

[no country for old wainds]

dissection is poppier/hookier than FAFTS, regardless of quality. nothing generic about the latter's eye of the storm approach either, i don't know of another album that paradoxically evokes such tranquillity through chaotic instrumentation.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

dissection is poppier than FAFTS

that's why Mort and Phylactery enjoy the latter more, 'mirite?

and lol at referring to anything on that album as "chaotic". by the book melodic black metal. And like i said, there's no denying that the Dissection albums are denser and there is far more going on there, so my point on accessibility is spot on i'd say.

 

[Phylactery]

There’s absolutely nothing “by the books” about FaFtS. It also sounds almost nothing like Dissection. Far more in common with early AtG and even Pure Holocaust era Immortal. There are no thrash or trad metal leanings unlike with Dissection.

And I don’t think it’s unarguable that Dissection is more dense. FaFtS is more layered and took more listens for me to appreciate. Dissection was more instantly enjoyable, but ultimately less rewarding for me.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

There’s absolutely nothing “by the books” about FaFtS. It also sounds almost nothing like Dissection. Far more in common with early AtG and even Pure Holocaust era Immortal. There are no thrash or trad metal leanings unlike with Dissection.

And I don’t think it’s unarguable that Dissection is more dense. FaFtS is more layered and took more listens for me to appreciate. Dissection was more instantly enjoyable, but ultimately less rewarding for me.

so a melodic black metal album sounds almost nothing like the band that basically fathered that subgenre?


"thrash leanings"? lulz. thanks for the good laugh my man.

Far more in common with early AtG and even Pure Holocaust era Immortal.

Lmfao, sorry but this is where i stop listening to anything you have to say on this subject.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

I wouldn't say thrash leanings. Dissection had more trad leanings on SotLB than anything else. Although, that being said, saying that Dissection sounds nothing like the bands that directly sprung from Dissection's contributions to black metal is silly. There are certainly differences but to say that they sound nothing alike is pretty stupid. It's like saying that mid to late '90s Stratovarius sounds nothing like early '90s Yngwie Malmsteen.

 

[Phylactery]

No one will deny the superficial similarities between them. But that’s not really important.

It’s an age old argument and I don’t think the band’s sound similar enough to even compare as closely as some people do. So I have no issue with people preferring Dissection. Different sound and atmosphere. Dissection’s first two are more aggressive, while FaFtS is way more melancholic. Sacramentum’s later stuff is when they became far more aggressive and I don’t like it nearly as much.

 

[CiG]

Megadeth's early albums, while great, brought imperfection upon themselves by insisting on pointlessly covering songs.

"These Boots Are Made For Walking" being the obvious, blatant mistake.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Megadeth's early albums, while great, brought imperfection upon themselves by insisting on pointlessly covering songs.

"These Boots Are Made For Walking" being the obvious, blatant mistake.

That's not remotely controversial.

 

[Bloopy]

I like dem boots though. Anarchy in the U.K. is the obvious mistake.

 

[CiG]

I like dem boots though.

My copy is heavily censored so the song sounds like dogshit. Also I just really don't like covers of non-metal songs on metal albums, with very few exceptions like "Diamonds and Rust."