Controversial opinions on metal

[Vegard Pompey]

Debut albums are for the most part too underdeveloped to be really good.

 

[Black Friday]

Debut albums are for the most part too underdeveloped to be really good.

Yet also show creative energy rarely to be matched by later work.

 

[The Butt]

Hey, it's my opinion :Smokin:

Hey, your opinion there is shit. :Smokin:

 

[Thoth-Amon]

just as I don't like Cannibal Corpse or other oldschool death metal acts lacking innovation or technicality

yeah oldschool death metal acts lack innovation alright... THEY INVENTED THE FUCKING GENRE how much more innovative do you want?! the majority of new 'tech' death is simply shit. soulless, heartless, brainless over the top wankery meant to impress people with the musical tastes of a 12 year old.

 

[youdontknowme]

Thoth-Amon is right. wank, wank, wank and more wank.

 

[youdontknowme]

I don't necessarily mean they are shit, but I think they are greatly overrated and I never got into the music. I am into their genres though.

you like Children Of Gaydom.

 

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

yeah oldschool death metal acts lack innovation alright... THEY INVENTED THE FUCKING GENRE how much more innovative do you want?! the majority of new 'tech' death is simply shit. soulless, heartless, brainless over the top wankery meant to impress people with the musical tastes of a 12 year old.

Or, maybe it's just over your head, so you just resort to calling it shit.

 

[Thoth-Amon]

you like Children Of Gaydom.

indeed

 

[Thoth-Amon]

Or, maybe it's just over your head, so you just resort to calling it shit.

no not really. in the majority of that shit there isn't a single memorable fucking riff... just "oh guys check out how fast i can do sweep picking! that isn't gratuitous at all! awesome!"

 

[Omni]

Most bands that last for many years tend to peak within their first few albums, although there definitely are bands who consistently release good or amazing music.

 

[Thoth-Amon]

Most bands that last for many years tend to peak within their first few albums, although there definitely are bands who consistently release good or amazing music.

there seems to be a ten year threshold... after that most bands go downhill.

 

[Blind Guardian]

no not really. in the majority of that shit there isn't a single memorable fucking riff... just "oh guys check out how fast i can do sweep picking! that isn't gratuitous at all! awesome!"

Agreed, most of it is just there to cover up bad songwriting, somewhat like walking fast enough so no one will notice how ugly you are (there's a few exceptions though, a tech death band without blast beats will get me more interested for example) .

 

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

So, would you prefer every metal band to rehash old material and always stay the same?

 

[Thoth-Amon]

So, would you prefer every metal band to rehash old material and always stay the same?

of course not. we want substance over style. there's nothing wrong with incorporating technical elements in one's music... it's just that one a band is labelled a 'Tech' band they tend to have an overabundance of technicality at the expense of songwriting.

 

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

of course not. we want substance over style. there's nothing wrong with incorporating technical elements in one's music... it's just that one a band is labelled a 'Tech' band they tend to have an overabundance of technicality at the expense of songwriting.

I agree with you there. It's like when a band is trying to be "progressive" they forget to actually write music they would enjoy. Same can go with tech stuff, though I still enjoy some of it.

 

[Doomguy]

you like Children Of Gaydom.

Take that back!
I herd u liek Kregaytor.

 

[youdontknowme]

Kreator can write actual songs and perform them, whereas COB just shred on their guitars and keytars while prancing around on stage like ballerinas.

 

[Doomguy]

lol, ballerinas.

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

oh, this argument


back in a few pages

 

[Doomguy]

New opinion.
Gorgoroth are grossly overrated.