Controversial opinions on metal
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Dak
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Perhaps I need to expand my definition of elitism to incorporate this. However agreeable your point, I believe the title of elite (if it is to be used) should be decided upon and given by others, not self proclaimed. I think I'm just put off by seemingly self-righteous "arbiters", who believe their opinion should be more respected based solely on their own ego. Besides the fact that music is art and art (or the value thereof) is completely subjective, you can compare music to other music qualitatively, but at the end of the day the value or weight you give to the qualities used to compare are still subjective. This is why I don't agree with elitism, because I don't think it makes sense in art or music. In math or science it works because the value of anything scientific is based on whether or not it works, and then by its efficiency. Both are undeniable results.
I've always tried to make music that is first, enjoyable and different, secondly. Because for me personally, I think music has more value if it is good and different, rather than just good. In all, I suppose I agree that experimenting just for experiment's sake could prove to be a waste, but if it is done second to making enjoyable music or to make the music more enjoyable it should be implemented all the time.
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Something in My Eye
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Meshuggah hurts my head. I don't like the songs that I've heard. People tell me that I would like them a lot. 
VelociBrad
Spawn of Possession
Not surprising though, considering the source of the opinion! but yeah. pretty bad.
Definitely not surprising. What do you expect from someone who listens to Methodman, red mayne, and Korn?
Mort Divine
Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd
what the fuck is wrong with Method Man? Fuck you, anything Wu-Tang related is at the very least acceptable.
DarkBliss
...And okra for all
I dislike double standards more than anything. Liking Candlemass but proclaiming Dimmu Borgir atrociously operatic and theatrical. Meh, who needs that? Sorry, ObscureInfinity, though I'm almost certain you were half-jesting anyway, since after long debate we had, you used "wat" as a retort to my post about St.Anger being the greatest metal album ever.You know, that charmingly stupid internet bastardization of "what". Phew, you can;t imagine the relief I've felt.
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Mort Divine
Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd
You know a trait that brings praise in one genre doesn't mean it has to in another.
Doom =/= black metal
DarkBliss
...And okra for all
Either way, most people I know who dislike theatrics in music, are not fans of either band. Candlemass are to Black Sabbath what Dimmu Borgir are to, I dunno, Burzum, Mayhem?
Mort Divine
Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd
DarkBliss
...And okra for all
Okay, Darkthrone. I dunno, man. Help me out here; whate is the most critically acclaimed BM band?
VelociBrad
Spawn of Possession
Why would you compare Dimmu to Darkthrone, Mayhem, or Burzum? They have practically zero in common. Maybe Emperor would be a more valid comparison?
Mort Divine
Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd
I think what he is trying to say is that Candlemass and Dimmu Borgir are both similar to each other because they're more bombastic than their progenitors.
DarkBliss
...And okra for all
Mort Divine
Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd
DarkBliss
...And okra for all
There's nothing groundbreaking in their sound.It's all been done before by Black Sabbath and Fates Warning.
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