Core?

[gabriel g.]

What is core? Seriously?
It's like some 1-chord breakdown shit from what I understand?

most real hard-CORE has nothing to do with breakdowns...


all core stuff comes from hardcore.
Hardcore was named that way because of porn.

Punk-rock was soft like freeTV sexy clips, and Hardcore was the heavy porn.
No joke


So ask the porn industry why its called hardcore

 

[AllanD]

Now a days it's pretty much pedal riffing with EXTREME emphasis on breakdowns, throw in some dissonant breakdowns here and there, chugs plastered throughout the song, clean vocal pop choruses that can be/usually are auto tuned, and a lack of flowing transitions in songs. "Cookie cutter" metal. There is almost 0 hardcore influence in 99% of metalcore, which is another reason why people are turned off by the idea.


Metalcore used to be bands like Coalesce, Earth Crisis, 7 Angels 7 Plagues, Hopesfall, Poison the Well, Converge. Now the bands you'll see as metalcore are As I Lay Dying, Asking Alexandria, Bring Me the Horizon, every other band you'll see mentioned in this forum.

There are some metalcore bands that still give me faith in the scene. Misery Signals, It Prevails, Counterparts, Shai Hulud, all great bands that actually sound like hardcore mixed with metal.


EDIT: ^ Beat me to it.


One thing though. Punk = Soft? I disagree.

 

[Jaymz]

btw. sneap did a lot of metalcore and stuff....
Killswitch engage, despiced icon, as i lay dying, 36 crazyfitz the list goes on and on.

If its good music its good music, dont make your head explode because of all this sub-genre (and lifestyle decisions)

Besides 36 he only mixed those bands, he said himself it STARTED with KSE and has now gotten very stale with every band sounding the same.

If its good music its not metalcore if thats how you want me to put my personal opinion on it.

Metalcore used to be bands like Coalesce, Earth Crisis, 7 Angels 7 Plagues, Hopesfall, Poison the Well, Converge. Now the bands you'll see as metalcore are As I Lay Dying, Asking Alexandria, Bring Me the Horizon, every other band you'll see mentioned in this forum.

Exactly, of which those topics now have a brand new forum to reside on

 

[gabriel g.]

Poison the Well, Converge, Hope conspiracy, shai Hulud and a lot of more hardcore bands (with some metal influences) are mile-stones for the modern hard music.

 

[AllanD]

Exactly, of which those topics now have a brand new forum to reside on

Only one of the bands I mentioned are a band that would be asked about on the other forum. Trust me, I wish all those mediocre generic bands would go away too, but just because they are terrible doesn't mean I would base the whole genre on them. Saying good music isn't metalcore is kind of a stretch. Maybe good music isn't 3rd wave metalcore is better

 

[Jaymz]

Only one of the bands I mentioned are a band that would be asked about on the other forum. Trust me, I wish all those mediocre generic bands would go away too, but just because they are terrible doesn't mean I would base the whole genre on them. Saying good music isn't metalcore is kind of a stretch. Maybe good music isn't 3rd wave metalcore is better

Just my opinion that im not a fan of metalcore Even the "good" metalcore, I guess you would say KSE...

 

[AllanD]

Just my opinion that im not a fan of metalcore Even the "good" metalcore, I guess you would say KSE...

Still massive amounts of it these days!

I would never say KSE is good metalcore.

 

[Jaymz]

Ah I giveup! I don't really know what core is and it seems it will probs differ depending on who you talk to anyway

 

[ratsapprentice]

Used to refer to genres that stemmed or took influence from Hardcore.

Now it refers to genres that take influence from Metalcore.

Simple as that, just listen to bands that have -core attached I'm sure you have enough musical nous to figure out what aspects of the music -core describes.

 

[Felix Neumann]

WIN

I've got Horrorscope in my car now

Sir James...you are not only a wizard, you are a connoisseur, indeed Overkill is FUCKING NONCORE"!! And infectious is a great song.

 

[Ryuno]

There's too much metal and rock in this forum, I think we need to fill Rate my Mix section with Rebecca Black multitracks.

 

[Arsenu,]

Core sucks!

Fuuck!!!, where the fuck is THE fucking METAL in this fucking forum?

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

i'm with Jaymz and good old Loomis on this one haha....
give me some fucking metal!!!!!!!
not some sorry ass auto-tune-slip-edit-every-note-podfarm-tones bullshit!

 

[Jaymz]

Forum collab on the horizon I feel!

 

[ratsapprentice]

Seems strange that people are bashing hardcore and praising a new york thrash band in the same thread!

 

[Jaymz]

Whats strange about that? lol

 

[MaellaJohn]

There's too much metal and rock in this forum, I think we need to fill Rate my Mix section with Rebecca Black multitracks.

 

[AllanD]

Whats strange about that? lol

Thrash derived from Hardcore and NWOBHM.

 

[Jaymz]

Thrash derived from Hardcore and NWOBHM.

Thrash came from punk? Where does hardcore even come into it?

Thrash and the hardcore you hear on this forum are nothing alike either...

Overkill > Hardcore

 

[ratsapprentice]

I don't recall the last time someone actually posted Hardcore on this forum, only metalcore.
Hardcore IS punk.

 

[AllanD]

Thrash came from punk? Where does hardcore even come into it?

Thrash and the hardcore you hear on this forum are nothing alike either...

Overkill > Hardcore

Hardcore started in the 80's as a faster more raw punk.







Here's Slayer covering Minor Threat, one of the first hardcore bands. Hardcore and Trash are intertwined.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_punk#cite_ref-azerrad.2C_380_62-0